This just means they're going to bring their war against America to other cities. Prepare by organizing your neighborhood. That means a local signal chat, explanations of how to respond to short and long whistle blasts, and preparation to get people to respond on a moment's notice

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[–] 2 points 9 months ago*

running for the border as their boss gets off being fired. wrong sit-com

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    [–] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    FYI, the official White House statement on this is, it's the sanctuary city's fault that ICE murdered those people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u1KrIgiBx4

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, Todd Flintstone, Trump's lawyer, that guy that's Fred's uglier, stupider, and more violent younger brother, was on TV Sunday morning, blaming it all on Minnesota not letting their law enforcement support ICE. That's why this happened, it's all the Mayor's and the Governor's fault.

    There are 3000 ICE Apes in Minneapolis, and the police department has 600 officers. Why can't a massive force of 3000 protect themselves? Why do they need 600 cops to protect them?

    Or maybe they just want scapegoats to blame their murders on. Turns out, they'll blame the cops anyway.

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  • [–] 55 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    It would be best if they left earth

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 9 months ago

    Call your rep and senators and ask that ICE and the Border Patrol be prosecuted for levying war against the United States. Point out their armament, military-style uniforms, and propensity to shoot people.

    I don't expect success quickly, but it's in the realm of possibility

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I hear the sun is nice this time of year

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    "Telephone call? Telephone call? That's communication with the outside world. Doctor's discretion. Nuh-uh. Look, hey. If all of these nuts could just make phone calls, they could spread insanity, oozing through telephone cables, oozing into the ears of all these poor sane people, infecting them. Wackos everywhere, a plague of madness. In fact, very few, very few of us here are actually mentally ill. I'm not saying you're not mentally ill, for all I know, you're crazy as a loon. But that's not why you're here. That's not why you're here. That's not why you're here! You're here because of the system."

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Be a lot cooler if they couldn't leave because they'd been arrested for participating in organized kidnapping and murder.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    How does one respond to short and long whistle blasts ?

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 9 months ago

    If you're a citizen, you show up. Fast. Short blasts means they're present. Long ones mean they're actively trying to grab somebody. So be prepared to follow with a bike or car until they leave the neighborhood on short.

    The idea is to create a crowd substantially larger than the ICE snatch team. This tends to deter them from acting. You record them if you can.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Maybe they'll go back to the border.

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    [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Some agents. Unless it’s all agents, they can fuck right off with this nonsense.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    "Controversial".

    Say "controversial" one more goddamned time...

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Gotta keep rotating the Death Squads, before they start murdering the local prostitutes.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Good opportunity to check their papers before they flee town

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    “Controversial” eh? That’s an interesting way to spell “Nazi”

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Sources familiar with the matter say his balls froze off.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Wish it would be more of them.

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  • Too late...

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  • [+] -20 points 9 months ago (40 children)

    Most people don’t know how to join the massive local signal chat. Change don’t happen among small groups of people. As evidenced by… gestures broadly

    But what am I doing, right? Attack the one asking for change haha. Gimme gimme

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago* (19 children)

    You get banned from one politics community, immediately I find you in another one. You just don't stop with this.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (18 children)

    I don’t stop talking about fighting maga, right.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    ... by unrelentingly bashing the efforts of people actually fighting maga, don't forget the context.

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  • [+] -9 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    I don’t tell them to stop. I ask for more. You’re just stuck in this lemmy hive mind where no one can say anything without listing all of their own accomplishments.

    If I say: “government bad”

    You’ll say: “I agree”

    If I say: “let’s do something”

    You’ll say: “what the fuck are you doing troll?!”

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Let’s do something about fascism.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (13 children)

    Already working on it, thanks for your support though!

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    No no. That's not enough. We need you to start detailing legit criminal plans openly. I mean I need you to I'm just one person...

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    Attending protests, helping moderate ICE response groups and volunteering with immigration defense hotlines aren't illegal at all! I really encourage you to look up ones in your local area and see if you can help out too - even just bringing coffee to the volunteers helps a ton, especially with how cold it is right now.

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    Well lately I've been dabbling in calling out an obvious troll so their defeatist rhetoric doesn't ensnare well-meaning folks unaware of who they're engaging with.

    Seems to be working out pretty well for me, too.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    So nothing to actually stop fascism. Got it.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (7 children)

    Fascists never seem to think the efforts to combat them are effective. Weird how that works.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Do you think my effort to combat you is effective?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Oh my gosh you actually went with "no u" again?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (3 children)

    And now it's devolved to "what?"-posting. I think we're done here.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    The opaqueness is on purpose, the rapid response groups are already in the thousands and are unvetted. The opaqueness means only the determined folks will find it

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    Oh so not the other 99% of the population right? Got it.

    I’m sure this is very effective.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Gee... For someone wanting to "do something" about fascism, you sure are seeding a lot of doubt. And don't tell me you're just being "realistic". None of what Trump's goons are doing is realistic.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Doubt? How? Maybe it’s just your interpretation.

    Me: fight harder

    You: why you doubt?

    Help me out here.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Me: fight harder

    How? Are you apart of any movement? What are you doing to prevent this at a local level? Anything? Give us a clue.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Why do I have to explain myself to have an opinion?

    If you must know, I’m going through that ICE list to identify where they all live and their next of kin. Something I’m pretty decent at. My local level isn’t an issue right now, and so I’m spending that free time doing what I can with the skills I have. I’m sure they’ll be in my area eventually at this rate.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    My local level isn’t an issue right now, [...] I’m sure they’ll be in my area eventually at this rate.

    So is it an issue for you or not?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    My area does not have ice like Minnesota, is what I mean.

    Do I qualify yet? Or was I never going to qualify, and you just wanted to argue?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Remind them that they're ramping it up just in time for the midterms.

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  • [+] -8 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Are we still doing elections? ;)

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Yes, because thankfully the founding fathers made one smart decision by providing absolutely no legal mechanism for cancelling them.

    Trump can try - he will - but he won't get very far. Even the Supreme Court won't back him on this one (the exact 'why' of that is a lot to get into).

    He's going to be better off trying to cheat the midterms than cancel them. In fact, his cancel talk is probably working against him, because it's taking away from the urgency of figuring out how to commit the levels of fraud they need to commit.

    And the thing about election fraud is the more of it you do, the harder it is to conceal. That's more opportunities to fuck up, more people who have to stay silent. So the more people vote, the harder it becomes for them to cheat. If they only have to nudge the needle that's easy. If they have to bury it, that's way harder.

    Achieving the levels of fraud you see in Russia doesn't happen overnight. You have to extensively reprogram a population en masse to accept those levels of blatant fraud. Trump isn't there yet.

    I'm not saying there's nothing to be scared of. I'm saying the fight is winnable, if you don't give up.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    USPS timestamps, SAVE Act, ICE at the ballot box.

    That’s how it will happen

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    OK? I don't disagree, those do appear to be the main vehicles through which they will attempt to depress the Dem vote.

    But I'm not sure what point you're making, unless you're just agreeing with me while adding specifics?

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