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[+] 222 points 9 months ago (13 children)
  • [–] 168 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    During Gestapo and Stasi times most informants did their best to remain anonymous because no one likes snitches. Openly following someone and bragging about it is sociopathic even by nazi and Stalinist standards.

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  • [+] 7 points 9 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 21 points 9 months ago

    both are a bad comparison for ICE, which is much more like the SA: low-level thugs used to intimidate the opposition and steal elections, to be discarded and replaced the moment they're no longer needed

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Nobody cares if Stasi are whingy about imperfect allusions. 🖕🏽 Both groups deserve lead sentences, full stop.

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  • [+] -16 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    You're reading the wrong books, nazi. 🖕🏽

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  • [+] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 215 points 9 months ago (26 children)

    This comment of the lady taking the picture really reminds me of the early Nazi era regime where people were hunting for undocumented Jews. This makes me incredibly sad to see history is repeating itself yet again.

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  • [–] 110 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    There are still WWII veterans alive that fought the Nazis in Germany just to watch it repeat itself in their own fucking country.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Think any of those vets are the same people trying to get these folks deported?

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  • [–] 28 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    They're all 90+. Do you think someone that old is doing anything besides watching soap operas?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm inclined to agree. I lost my grandfathers years ago, but I've gone through this thought exercise a lot since this all kicked off:

    Assuming they don't already know: would I shelter a 90+ year old veteran from home-grown horrors that they'll never live to see resolved, or let them shuffle off this mortal coil blissfully ignorant?

    Honestly, this is a situation where the truth simply won't do any good. I'd probably just not tell them and keep those soaps and old movies on repeat.

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  • [–] 16 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    To have been active at any point in the war, someone would have to be 99. (2026-1945+ 18yrs to be draft age at the end of the war)

    Even if there are maga ww2 vets, I doubt many of them are active enough for this.

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago

    Well damn, guess that's why the Nazis are back in full-force: the generation that defeated them last time is nearly gone. Now 1/3 this country is welcoming Nazis with open arms.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    There were definitely people under 18 fighting in both world wars.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Sure but even if we drop the age all the way to 13, theyre still 93 years old, and that would be people who only saw combat at the very end.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago*

    Yeah I mean not a statistically significant difference, I just think the assumption set should be as broad as possible as a matter of conservative estimation. We're trying to show that the living memory footprint is low, which I thought better served by getting the absolute maximum number that could be alive, and it's still very small.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago

    Probably.

    Social media has warped the old and the young alike, as it was designed to do. The people who use these corporate, algorithmically-driven feeds probably aren't even aware that they themselves are supporting Nazism under a different name.

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  • [–] 34 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I've actually started keeping screenshots of people I know who are supportive of ICE, in part so I have my own little database of people who I know can't be trusted, and so that I can hopefully publish them later when these same people try to pretend they didn't support this.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    How about start ruining their lives NOW?

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  • [–] 89 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I think I might've seen this somewhere. Hope you got this over there. Greetings from Germany.

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  • [–] 84 points 9 months ago (19 children)

    Time to bring back the proud American tradition of shooting Nazis.

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  • [–] 60 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    I would prefer the bat method. They should feel it.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Glad you included a picture. Based on text, I thought you were suggesting we get Batman.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (11 children)

    And then what?

    Trump wants ICE agents to get killed. Then he can declare martial law

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  • [–] 32 points 9 months ago* (5 children)

    They're probably going to declare martial law anyways. What are you going to do then, listen to them? They want a civil war and societal breakdown. This is their end goal, its obvious. What they don't realize is not every state is going to listen, and there is over half of the country who despises them. This is going to devolve into a civil war one way or another, and it makes me sad.

    There is no reason it needs to be this way, but you can only push people so far before they fight back.

    I have no idea what the spark is going to be, but its coming. It's not normal for states to threaten to quit paying taxes, and for a state to activate the national guard to deal with federal goons.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I have no idea what the spark is going to be, but its coming.

    Historically there will be a false flag attack on some important military or government structure. Trump will blame liberals, despite it being obvious shortly afterwards that they bombed themselves intentionally.

    Thats why immediately after 9/11 there were conspiracys that "Bush planned 9/11". Not saying I agree with that, but I understand where the idea comes from. It's an old tactic that goes all the way back to at least Ghengis Khan.

    It's even happened in American history. Blame the Maine on Spain.

    So, maybe expect a military base, or the statue of liberty to be bombed. And then trump will say he needs full military in the streets. He doesn't, but he'll say that, and he'll get it.

    The only question is, as the Army marches through the streets, will they be goose stepping?

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Or it could be the economy tanking,a particularly bad winter storm or other natural disaster, another epidemic/pandemic, a complicit billionaire caught on a hot mic doing something dumb with the world watching, another inflamed and unstable right winger takes another run at Trump for some unhinged reason.

    We're in such a precarious position right now that we're ready to burst at one of our many weak seams.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They already have their civil war. I've seen Minneapolis

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    No they don't. Protesting isn't a civil war. You clearly haven't actually experienced a civil war before. It's not fun, and nobody wins.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    Then what? do it. Fuck it. What is the fucking plan? What's the play after that like really? Let's see what happens. Are we going to get paramilitary troops killing us in the street? Lol

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    ICE pretty much has all the employees it ever will. Even with the inflated budget they're having trouble recruiting gestapo. They're concentrating their efforts in Minneapolis because they don't have the resources to do it anywhere bigger, much less everywhere at once.

    So they're all-in trying to get violent kickback so they can justify the Insurrection Act, because that will allow them to deploy troops, which the courts keep blocking.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Marital law == dictatorship. As far as I have read, that's the plan, then there will be no more elections and he can use the military for anything he can dream up. He's very worried about the midterm elections. Many signs are predicting the end of the republican majority in both sides of congress.

    There is another way that does not involve violence, but it'll require a coalition. Several states will need to band together and withhold funding.

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  • [+] 74 points 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 66 points 9 months ago* (22 children)

    Paper is the new privacy measure

    Always has been.

    Protip: for anyone seeking to use typewriters to further circumvent surveillance, please know that the ribbon is a complete log of every keystroke. Also, the pressure your pen makes on paper can be recovered from soft-ish surfaces and sheets underneath it. Act accordingly.

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  • [–] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    I can't wait for glued on words from magazines to come back

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Careful. If truly determined people are hunting, microscopic particles trapped in the glue could be traced back to you. The specific magazines might also be identified from the letters and traced back to you.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    as someone who doesn’t use typewriters - is this all typewriters? most? modern? all?

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    All that I'm aware of. Or to put it another way: every typewriter you're likely to encounter out in the wild.

    It's a common trope for old whodunit mysteries, so I bet someone solved this particular problem but I'll also bet that they're not common machines.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    this is not my area at all, but there's got to be some sort of ribbon design out there to randomize the travel after each keystroke

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I had an old one as a kid that didn't advance the ribbon automatically anymore, so if you typed 4-5 chars, it would be a little dimmer, till you hit around 10 and couldnt really read it. So youd have to flick the wheel a little to advance it. Probably too annoying for real use, (and the reason my Nana had given it to me when I was 5) but would be great for short messages like this, and putting 5 chars on top of eachother makes a pretty unrecognizable jumble of lines on tbe ribbon.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    duh, just remove the automatic repeatable part. this is why you should think before commenting, kids. jeepers look at me go

    but yeah, while annoying for regular use, certainly doable for certain occasions. and probably could be semi-automated fairly easily

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I feel like it wouldnt be too hard to fashion a spring that goes between the spindle and a modified cassette, so that as the spindle turns with each keystroke, the spring builds up tension, and enough letters to obscure all type in one spot, then it releases it all at once, advancing the tape.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    As a person who submitted multiple school papers on a '95 typewriter I can say this: the "newer"style presented a similar issue. Pressing a key was similar to pressing a key on a computer keyboard, as opposed to traditional typewriters where the key press is physically pressing a stamp into ink paper (the ribbon).

    I'm not sure how the 1995 one worked, but there were no physical stamps, and it required power. It still left a visible impression on the ribbon though.

    This one was fancy and had multiple ribbons in a cartridge. The bottom ribbon was ink, but there was also a highlighter ribbon and an eraser ribbon. For the time, this was very high end. Almost like having a real computer!

    The ribbon is just 2 wheels on gears, that work the spool of ink ribbon from one wheel to the other. I've taken them apart a few times, and yeah you can just read what was typed. If you have a fancy one that does erasing, both ribbons move the same, so retyping will end up with a ribbon that has jumbled letters. On older typewriters you can still manually move back on the line you are working on. Depending on the machine, and it's mechanics, it might have a "backspace" button that might roll back the ribbon as well.

    It's not going to remove letters, but you can go over the same space on the paper multiple times. (As example: you accidentally hit "a" instead of "e". You hit backspace to readjust to where the" a" is. You then press "e". Repeat that 5 or 6 times, and the "e" should be visible on top the original "a".)

    If I'm not mistaken, there used to be typewriter tape available, might still be available. Used for instances that the ribbon gets tangled and you have to tape it back together. If that's the case, just rig the receiving wheel so that you can remove used ribbon. Burn the ribbon and done.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Protip: Get an old laptop with Linux for privacy, and don't dare to use Google services from it.

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