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[–] 95 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

Wow. That is so clear. You can see the agent watch the gun pulled from the back and once it was removed the agent shot him.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Sorry im out of the loop on this, was it a gun or a phone? Is NYT saying phone?

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  • [+] -10 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    My theory is that he saw a hand pull the gun and panicked because he thought it was the victim's hand.

    He clearly panicked specifically to something, it looks like he panicked at seeing a fellow "agent" pulling the victim's weapon. Not the weapon itself which he seems to be watching before drawing, but the hand removing the weapon.

    Since he had tunnel vision on the gun, he failed to recognize the hand removing the gun as being separate from the victim.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 9 months ago*

    Watch the video again, he drew his gun after the other officer had removed the victim's gun. He then took the time to back away and reposition before shooting the victim

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It seems pretty obvious that this was a retaliatory killing for the protests Friday and they targeted the guy with a gun so they could justify it for self defense

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  • [–] 85 points 9 months ago

    This one is even more brutal than I could have imagined. Do note that the same person who murders this man is also the same one who was pepper spraying someone who was slipping on ice and couldn't stand.

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  • [–] 72 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I had been struggling to see who exactly fired the first shot; but here it appears to be the brown shirt in a black toque and mask that's center screen for most of this video.

    He watched the grey coat remove Alexs firearm, which means he knew he was shooting at an unarmed target.

    The rest reacted to shots fired, unsure of where they came from; but still went WAY over board, shooting and continuing to shoot an unmoving target that posed no threat.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    My theory is that he knew a hand just reached for and removed the gun from the victim's waist. He somehow thought that was the victim drawing his own firearm. It looks like he had seen the gun and was staring at it, but the moment the gun was touched by some hand, that seemed to the moment that drove his panic.

    They are a bunch of idiots with no training or experience. The leadership is knowingly putting crappy people in the field, both malicious and incompetent.

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  • [–] 66 points 9 months ago*

    Thank you for posting this. This is the clearest version I have seen and really lets you see how truly fucked up this is. Anyone still defending ICE/CBP cannot be taken seriously.

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  • [–] 65 points 9 months ago

    These fascist fucks deserve to hang

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  • [–] 56 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Yep, that's an execution. So disgusting to see people defending this on other social media platforms.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    I am curious how can this be defended, did he "weaponize" his arm and leg or something

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Everything I've seen so far is conservativesboot lickers saying "he should have stayed home", "he brought a gun to interfere with federal agents", "FAFO", etc.

    Basically they've all given up on the idea of free speech and the right to bear arms, and have gone full on "we love big government".

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    It's not that they suddenly love big government, it's that they don't actually think... period. Politics to these people has nothing to do with actual reality, and none of these people actually give a single thought about how politics actually impact their own lives. These people treat politics like a sports team. They are Republicans, so they're on team Red. Everything their team does is automatically good, because that's their team. Everything the other team does is bad, because that's the other team.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    They don't like the kind of "big government" that pays for health care for poor people.

    They do like the kind of big government that does mean things to poor people.

    I know that sounds like hyperbole but that's pretty much it.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes, but they only think that way because that's what they've been told to think by "their team". They're not Republicans because they are against free healthcare, they're against free healthcare because they're Republicans.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Nah, my dad will jump at any opportunity to talk about how bad and corrupt the Republican party is, but still votes for them every election because he agrees with pretty much everything they've ever advocated for except maybe Iraq. He's a Republican because he hates poor people and minorities and "communism", but not out of any sort of team loyalty.

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  • [–] 52 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    MAGAs after a school shooting: “Stay away from my guns! The second amendment protects me from a tyraniccal government! 😎🇺🇸🦅”

    MAGAs when a tyrannical government murders somebody who was exercising his constitutional rights by concealed carrying with a permit: “He had a gun! He’s a domestic terrorist! 🫨🚨🤬”

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    It was always this way. White man with a rifle is okay, brown man is obviously an agitator.

    Guns are an oppressive force in the US. They have never and will never be used to stop oppression, just lead us to the new oppressive regime.

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  • [–] 49 points 9 months ago

    Holy shit, this was a cold blooded execution

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  • [–] 45 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    At some point, after a couple more people are straight up executed because an ICE agent is a little pussy and is "afraid" of an unarmed person...people need to step up and shoot back...or shoot first. Just saying

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  • [+] 32 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Shame all those Minnesota hunters with rifles that know how to shoot from hundreds of yards away aren't doing...something

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Why don’t you? I keep hearing a lot of bloodlust and main characters telling me what they “would” or “should” do. Fucking do it.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I will continue to post this every time someone insinuates that someone else should murder Trump/ICE Agents/ etc. Instead, please focus on protecting you and yours.

    In the US we have the Second Amendment. The fascists have been the ones screaming and yelling about the Second Amendment, but the truth is that all Americans have the right.

    Owning a gun isn't enough. Driving to Cabela's and picking up a vermin killing .22 is not enough. You should buy a proper rifle, a pistol, and a knife or baton. (Bonus points for a shotgun) Then you need to train with said rifle, pistol and knife/baton. Go to a range and shoot. Look for local self defense/hand to hand combat with a weapon classes and train.

    I am not advocating for violence...far from it. But I am advocating for knowledge because owning a weapon and not knowing how to use it is a recipe for disaster.

    PS: If you can afford it, buy suppressors. Especially for your rifles. Suppression for the common citizen isn't about stealth like in the movies, it is about protecting your hearing. Guns are LOUD. Much louder than you expect. At the bare minimum, make sure you have quality active hearing protection.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Unfortunately, about 3% of the US population is currently barred from legally owning a firearm, based on a quick overview of studies on how many people have a felony conviction in the US. This number is significantly higher for African Americans and other races.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Do you remember those news from like a week back or so how Putin Trump has 2000 active duty soldiers on standby in, wherever it was, close by? It seems to me that this was the play all along- pardon the J6ers and the proud pigs, give them weapons, uniforms and face masks, send them in to cause mayhem on the streets (just like Hitlers SA), and the second someone defends themself they send in the army and declare martial law. No more elections.

    If this isn't exactly how it will play out I am going to eat my own balls.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    You are right, but now what? Will Minnesotans allow the executions so Trump leaves the elections in peace? Trump will try to stop the elections anyway. I think Americans are already so deep into Trump's shit that they can't expect any laws to work properly at all. The rogue state that the USA has been for decades has finally come to occupy the USA territory.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    This seems to be the play, yes. It's a classic dictatorship move.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    If Governors do not wield their State's National Guard and police forces to defend citizens from ICE terrorism, people's anger will only grow and more senseless killing will be had.

    Tim Walz needs to buckle the fuck up and protect Minnesotans.

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  • [–] 41 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    He never pulled his gun. He never reached for it. He's innocent and it's irrefutable.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Fuck. This is so disgusting, it is so infuriating. Straight up murder of a US citizen, a good man, a better man than any of these fucking cockroaches.

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I had to keep jumping back to the start after the shots were fired because I couldn't tell which one was firing. I saw the one guy remove the gun from his belt, but I didn't actually see anyone pointing a gun at him when the shots went off. Silly me... I had been assuming it was one of any of the 5 guys actively struggling with him. I didn't realize it was the guy standing next to them trying to find a way to pepper spray him in the face (again) before reacting to the sight of a gun on his person that was immediately removed by a colleague by grabbing his own gun and unloading a clip into the guy.

    Absolutely no justification for this, not even a long shot excuse about being in fear of his life. The gun wasn't in his hand, it was removed from his person entirely, and 4 other guys were actively restraining him down in a crouching position. The shooter was in absolutely no danger.

    I don't know if this was cowardice and odiocy that resulted in an unreasonable fear response because these guys are just basement dwelling bigots that were handed guns and badges without any real screening or training, or if the guy has just been itching to shoot someone and he saw the gun in his belt as his excuse/opportunity.

    Side note, even if I were an evil fascist racist small pricked ICE agent that fully supported killing this innocent bystander... I'd still be pretty fucking pissed that the dude fired on a guy that me and my 4 friends were actively dog piling on.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    As I reach for what the hell specifically drove that guy to clearly panic and draw his firearm and shoot, my best guess is he saw the gun and then saw a hand pull it. His two brain cells failed to understand it was one of his own pulling out the gun and opened fire thinking the guy just pulled his gun.

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  • [–] 35 points 9 months ago

    Cold-blooded murder.

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    fuck ICE. Fuck anybody who voted for Trump. Fuck Trump and FUCK USA.

    in Trump's own words: a shithole!

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  • [+] -6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    You know is worse than trump voters? Every leftist that stayed home and parroted Trumps anti Biden rhetoric. Traitors

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  • [–] 25 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Wild he not only point blank shot, but there was possibility of cross fire and he fired directly next to another person's ear.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    These guys were hired en masse and vetted by AI, we can't really expect them to understand gun safety.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    You're not wrong, but this particular motherfucker has worked for Border Patrol for 8 years. I see a lot of people talking about untrained, inexperienced thugs, and they are, but this is what they do with training and experience.

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  • [–] 37 points 9 months ago* (8 children)

    WTF? That was an execution! It was literally a firing squad! Every one of those Apes should get the death penalty.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    In a firing squad, all but one or two rifles are firing blanks so that no single shooter would ever know for certain that it was their bullet, and therefore it wouldn't weigh on their conscience.

    These people all wanted in on it.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I was taught that all the rounds are live, except one, so the victim takes multiple shots, but every shooter can convince themselves that they had the blank round, and didn't kill.

    Otherwise you take a chance on those one or two shots not being mortal, and having to reload.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Genuine question - the agent firing the gun will go to trial, yes? Federal agents in the US can not just kill random people in the without going to trial before an objective court?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It may take time, but he will be prosecuted. So will Renee Good's murderer.

    Don't listen to the trolls, they said the same thing about George Floyd's killers, who are sitting in prison at this moment.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    In the time since George Floyd's murder, much has changed. The courts are much more in Trumps pocket, and to the extent that they can male this a federal case, he'll just pardon the murderers again.

    In the mean time, the Dems will focus on stepping on their own necks to prevent the GOP from doing it.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Didn't look like he was fighting at all, it was them getting in each other's way.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Bro was literally face down in the floor being held down by 5 people. I'd say this is a Mexican execution, but pretty sure narcos in the jungle are more organized and disciplined than this.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    just keep collecting and posting these. when Nuremberg trial 2 hits there will be alot of evidence

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Throw every single ice agent in prison!

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  • [–] 29 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    Tim Walz needs to activate the National Guard, state police, and local police to protect the community of the Twin Cities from fascist invasion and occupation.

    Else, ICE will keep killing, and it's only a matter of time before regular citizens take up protection for themselves.

    And they're right to do so.

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    The National Guard was activated yesterday, by Tim Walz, to protect police and property; not the people.

    (S)

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    I didn't expect them to show up and hand out Donuts to protestors....

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    If this is what they are doing in public they are doing much worse behind closed doors

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  • [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    If this is not enough for Americans to finally start a civil war I don't know what is. I hate this fucking nation.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    RIP Mr. Pretti. I agree with all those that accuse ICE of an execution.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊 BOIL 🧊

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Fuck these worthless terrorist pieces of shit! This guy was an air force veteran and a nurse. You can see that he was a good person in the video. Fuck these Nazis

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    Merica is the worst shithole in the world, and it always were. What is happening locally, violently abusing people for their own benefit, your shit-lords have done in all other nations on Earth for 75+ years.

    Your leaders don't care about 'free speech', 'human rights' or ANY of the lgbt+/climate or any of the latest 'feel good' propaganda campaigns. They never did. It doesn't matter which branch of the uniparty Plutocracy we look at. They don't give a shit about anything other than money/power and grabbing more of it - 'people' are either in their way, or can be exploited..

    The Merican dictatorship - The Empire of Lies - are cracking up, and going down hard !

    I recommend that you either get used to it and live a subservient life under a - now openly - fascist dictatorship - or take your nation back from the rich psychos that control and terrorize you and everyone else on the planet..

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Remember kids. Those fancy outfits ICE are wearing are NOT flame resistant.
    FIRE BURNS ICE.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (7 children)

    Don't you give this the dignity of calling it an execution. It was a fucking murder

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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    Execution intimates order of law.

    This was a murder.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    While it may be illegal under the letter of the law the government has acted to justify and normalize this action as a perfectly legal action.

    Unless the government changes their statements we have to accept that DHS personal are allowed to kill Americans with total impunity. Those are executions.

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  • I don't think that lawful execution of perfectly normal people intimates dignity.

    I'm fine with calling it both, by the way. It was a murder committed by an ICE officer, and it was an execution committed by the state, whom the officer represents. The state is executing people.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Say the the same prayer folks. These are the dumbest fucks in this country. Let’s get creative! For instance. Stay the fuck outta the way drop off a blue tooth speaker with shots fired sound & watch the chromosonally challenged light each other up. It’s worth a shot 🥸

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I hadn't watched this with sound. I shouldn't have. Is America just waiting for the government to change for the better?

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