Walz should be using the activated MN National Guard to arrest the ICE fucker who executed a MN resident and to cordon DHS personnel to their federal buildings, denying them the ability to leave the wire to go out on CP’s. Instead he’s staging them against the MN residents protesting. Fucking bullshit.

Ironically this is literally the "well armed militia" part of the second amendment that conservatives seem to ignore. Some were concerned that the federal government could simply use military force to undermine state sovereignty, so they enshrined the ability for the states to regulate militias independent of the federal government.

The fascists have spent decades eroding this right by pushing the idea that the amendment is about self defense of the individual, which is a much less of a threat to their fascist aspirations. Now we see the ultimate conclusion of this ideological trojan horse - the "second amendment crowd" is enthusiastically embracing fascism, while the states are powerless to push back.

Frogs sitting in said pot: "this is fine"

I can't find the interview now or remember who it was with because of my brainrot but roughly than six months ago this woman was saying in no uncertain terms things will get progressively darker and more violent. And I've thought of that when every one of these moments has arisen. She was speaking more to the need of a parent whose health premiums quadrupled and SNAP benefits were cut having to care for and feed a sick child and what that might do to their anger and willingness to go do something against the elements foisting this upon them, but of course we never can predict what the precise hinge point moments are going to be during turbulent times. We just knew they were coming. And now they are. And will continue.

It's like that one video with the cop dropping to the ground doing barrel rolls and shouting shots fired, when an acorn fell and hit the roof of a car.

Bunch of untrained morons.

From what I understand, the water bottle was a mace canister. Some reports were saying the guy was reaching for it to use as a weapon but I don't see that. It is then kicked away. Also, pay attention to the agent in the gray jacket. He walks up a bit late, and disarms the victim by pulling the (holstered) pistol from his waistband. He then runs away holding the weapon as the victim is shot. Like a dozen times.

It would’t matter if he was strapped with a .45 brother, that’s a right we have right after speech. They’re in the wrong here, this was MURDER. It was not even an execution. Execution implies you know it’s coming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ham_sandwich#In_popular_culture

At some point for these highly insecure "warrior alpha" types: "stopping the threat" just turns into jacking off with excitement.

I'm trying really hard to see how this could be anything else than a straight up execution. It's hard to see any way that dude could be threatening the life of anyone here. He's shot on his knees with his hands down looking away from the shooter (granted the footage we have here it's kind of hard to tell just cause there's so many people). There's footage of him talking to the agents before just holding his phone to record and then they start shoving him. There's also 8 bajillion agents beating the shit out of him right before. The woman's footage from the other side of this will show a ton if she was recording.

Anyways, I look forward to hearing how this heroic agent saved the lives of all his fellow warriors during this altercation. Hope the agent recovers from the assault safely and quickly in the hospital...

Edit: few things, someone pointed out the agent in the grey coat disarms the victim and runs away with his weapon before he's killed which I did not see at first.

Also, second lady's footage is now out and it doesn't show anything different than a bunch of thugs beating the shit out of this guy and then killing him.

Show up alone, you get arrested. Show up with 100 people, you get shot. We need to show up with 100,000+ people.

Organize! Join an organization! DSA, PSL, something anything!

there needs to be at least 10 of us with knives and aluminum bats hitting right back.

No, because that will make them open fire...

What will work is protesters in plated vests with rifles.

Every state is different. For Minnesota it's illegal to open carry a rifle, and there's no permit to open carry a rifle. But if you get a permit to carry a handgun, you're now allowed to carry a rifle.

The threat of effective violence is more effective than the actual act of ineffective violence, even when the threat is just passively implied by the presence of rifles and plates.

It costs less than a grand to get kitted out just like an ICE agent, hell, most of them don't even seem to carry rifles, but all the more reason for protesters.

Other people who read the news are not idiots and do not need this thinking outlined for them, it does nobody besides feds trying to make bullshit arrests for terroristic threats any good to share these thoughts on public forums

I just don't want our guys to get hurt.

Don't make a stand in a blaze of glory. The goal should be to make sure nobody knows who did it.

we need to get even more violent in retaliation.

That's how you lose.

That's what they want.

Right now two white people getting killed by ICE in broad daylight with dozens of cameras on them is slowly but surely destroying the GOP. There's nothing that shifts public opinion more than a clear narrative of "good guys" and "bad guys". When one side is armed and the other side is unarmed, and the armed people are killing unarmed people, there are clear good guys and bad guys. The white house is doing everything they can to spin the Minneapolis victims as "terrorists", but when they're unarmed it's a matter of seconds to disprove what they're saying.

As soon as the anti-ICE protesters start getting armed and start shooting back, the story gets complicated again. It becomes much easier to claim the protesters are violent if they're shooting back. It's dead easy to claim an ICE goon feared for his life if someone shot at him.

"They're shooting at ICE" gives Trump the excuse he needs to send in the military and start having guys in APCs start shooting heavy weapons into a crowd. It's also much more likely the soldiers are going to obey if they're getting shot at. If they're sent in against unarmed protesters and ordered to mow them down, it's very likely they'll refuse that order. And, refusing that order would be a big step in the end of the Trump regime.

Not shooting back is the main thing that the Minneapolis protesters have done right so far. It's also the most difficult thing to do.

But hey, it's America. America thinks guns solve problems. So, go solve that problem Americanely, while the rest of the world just watches the US tear itself apart and shakes their heads.

No.

You need the visceral emotional reaction.

That's different than logically understanding the abstract concept a murder happened. That's not new, but what happens in this video is new. It crosses the line in an inexplicable fashion and either enough people see it happen once in this video all at the same time, or we all wait to see it individually in person

You do though, because one the authorities start spinning their lies, there will be an element of doubt in everyone who has not seen this video.

They are the ones behind the masks doing the murdering.

Tired of hearing this. Pick up a gun yourself and prepare to defend your neighbors and yourself.

THE 2A IS FOR EVERYONE, PASS IT ON.

Plot twist: Wasn't even an immigrant. Was a tall handsome white male VA nurse. That man was worth more than all the men in ICE.

So basically the opening scene of V for Vandetta, but the guy wasn't V

https://files.catbox.moe/sp296e.mp4

It’s your duty as a human. Think of it as pest control.

If they think that a lack of justification is going to stop the fascists, they've got another think coming. Even if the response is completely non-violent, the fascists will just get tired of waiting and invent their own excuses, like they always do.

Paratroopers?

As fucked up as it is, I hope someone wants to see how resistant those parachutes are.