Doesn't matter they will get labeled something else. ICE is terrorizing MN law enforcement and the right doesn't care. Insurrectionists terrorizing law enforcement on Jan 6, the right didn't care. ICE is not a classic law enforcement agency anyway. These people are idiots and likely just making shit up.

I'd much rather be known as anti-law enforcement than pro-nazi.

But this not what ice is. They aren’t law enforcement. That’s the problem, too.

They are immigration and customs enforcement officers.

And… we should be whittling their budget

I'd be proud to be labeled "anti-law enforcement".

Hey now, I'm a big fan of pussies. Democrats, not so much.

Surely Steven Miller will magically change his mind and the human rights violations will stop. Uh huh.

Pussy
These democrats

They’re the same picture.

The slaughter of everyday Americans has never been a weighty burden to the American government.

Democracy is out of my price range at the moment. I can't afford the salary of a lobbyists.

Then vote for them anyway when they win.

Cowards, yes, but what are they afraid of?

Oh, right, losing power money.

FTFY

I bet they're also at least a little afraid of getting harassed by LEOs because they're not "pro-police" enough.

Exactly. Democratic policies work (most of the sometimes)... it's just democrats have no fucking backbone, no balls to demand things to get their policies enacted like republicans do. Republican policies fail miserably and royally fuck everything up. Grow a fucking pair, dems... be the change you want to see in the world.

The three should be one in the same IMO.

Came here for this

That was a lot of Kamalas campaign. look at our immigration policies, it's just the republican plans or we want to fund the military even more than the Republicans

It won't work so long as you have first-past-the-post voting.

It's called the DSA. Help them take over the husk of the Democratic party.

In Denmark we have 11 parties that have qualified to join the elections last time.

It's no big deal

Although it's not the one with the most votes that wins. The winner needs to have a minimum of seats and if not, they need to make a joint administration with other parties to sum up to the minimum number of seats

We need a working class party

We have 2 entrenched parties. The Republicans have about half the vote. If we fracture the vote on the left even a little bit then we lose. EG for example suppose we WOULD win with 51% of the vote suppose we convince 90% of the would be democrats to vote green.

The vote is now 45.9 Green 5.1 Dem 49% Republican aaaaand we now lose for the next 100 years. This is actually the optimistic case. Even if you get a green candidate who satisfies literally everyone on the left some will KNOW this can't fuckin work and yell at the defectors and some will dislike anything left of the dems and refuse to move so you probably get closer to 26% one and 25% the other. If carried out broadly enough you would hand an unstoppable super majority to the other side which they will use to fix it so your vote is suppressed forever.

You can't just vote third party you have to first reform the system. The most basic plausible move is instant runoff or something similar at the state level.

Trump straight pardoned Henry Cueller, the ringleader. He was caught dead to rights taking bribes from foreign officials and has functionally flipped teams in exchange for clemency.

Incidentally, Jefferies reinstated Cueller as senior Dem on the Appropriations Committee. He'll be the chairman if Dems retake the House this year.

There are not any good ones.

The Blue Dogs (the group that voted for ice funding) is the same group of dems that thwarted Bill Clinton.

It's all kayfabe, it's the squared circle. Whenever actual change is on the menu, like the public option with Obama care, exactly enough dems will turn to make it not happen, reliably.

How many is the super majority? Add 2 and that's how many dems will show up to stop progress.

You guys ever notice how it’s always the democrats that break rank but never the republicans?

Massie's been in full revolt for months now. And we've had perennial haters in the GOP going back to John McCain and Ron Paul. And the Tea Party Caucus was a big reason why the GOP couldn't pick a new House Speaker for nearly a month. These opponents tend to be Libertarian flavored, and tend to undermine Neocon efforts to spend money at the risk of raising taxes

The loathsome Blue Dog Caucus are an organized conservative opposition within the liberal party. It consistently sabotages party priorities while funneling enormous sums of corporate money into leadership races.

Both exist to benefit corporate interests.

They must be stupid or something.

They are.

It’s because both parties are owned by the same Israeli lobby and the Zionist tech bro oligarchs. It’s not even a conspiracy it’s easily verifiable. Epstein and Gizzline worked for Israel to collect blackmail for Israel. We pay for Israeli’s to have universal healthcare, free college and a $400 monthly payment per child until they turn 18 but those things are evil and “communist” here. We the American taxpayers pay hundreds of billions for this stuff while Americans die and go into debt for sickness. Israel is a hostile foreign power do friends blackmail their allies? https://www.trackaipac.com/congress https://wonderisrael.com/monthly-stipend-for-a-jewish-kid/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Israel

Who should we vote for otherwise? Every other option leads to Republicans staying in power, and they are the ones actually doing it.

Don't vote? That's fewer votes the Republicans need to win, so they stay in power.

Vote third party? That splits the opposition vote, and Republicans stay in power.

And no, neither of those choices "teach the Democrats a lesson." It just drives them to go to the people who do vote, who are more right wing, so it drives everything further right.

You want a more left wing party? Show them that the left votes and our votes have value.

So we can have Obama or Biden rather than Adolf Hitler with dementia?