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[–] 109 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Would be kinda funny if Digg consumed reddit's userbase after so many people having come from there in the early days.

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  • [–] 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I remember when "Remember Digg?" was a meme on early Reddit.

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  • [–] 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Remember "Remember Digg?" digs?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Digg screwed up by doing what reddit had done starting a few years back, while there was an easy and available alternative to go over to.

    Now digg is the easy alternative to go over to, but it won't work as well. At least not for long. The people who own digg are venture capitalist firms. It's sole existence is to monetize the hell out of the platform.

    Meanwhile, Lemmy treads water with a bit too few members because the learning curve is a bit steeper to get started.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I thought the email explanation would help, but I've learned that the vast majority of people had someone help them make an email once a long ass time ago and haven't thought about it since. They maybe made a second one when they needed a serious job and were afraid everyone would judge SmokerToker69.

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  • [–] 67 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    That looks overvalued by about $228.495

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  • [–] 36 points 9 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I’m getting all Angelfire’d up at this prospect!

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    I used angelfire to start my password stealing mission. People are stupid as fuck with security. They would login to a fake aol login with a Yahoo account 🤣

    Within 24 hours had 1500 usernames and passwords, I shut that shit down reallll quick.

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    [–] 26 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The image shows a line that goes up and down, ending about the same value as it started

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  • [–] 24 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Those are rookie numbers. We gotta pump that stock DOWN

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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    These things have value out if nothing

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    The value comes from expected value, hype. Yes, no real value, but the expectations inflate numbers. How tech companies are valued insanely high right now. Also quite a bit of Melon Husk's wealth is that, numbers out of thin air.

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  • [–] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    it’s not down because of digg, literally no investor cares about digg. It’s down because ad spending is down. Ad networks are spending steady on places like google and meta but they’re spending less on reddit.

    Apparently this is because reddit sucks at the targeted ad game part and the advertisers feel they get a better return by just building a presence on the platform (eg bots that go “oh that’s cool. By the way have you tried the new Taco Bell™ PepsiCo™ Shitbowl®, now with 10% less petroleum byproducts?”).

    This likely means they will become more aggressive about data collection and backend analysis of that data to get conversions up but they’ve been doing this for ages already. Reddits staff ballooned up long before the API fiasco and most of the hires were related to analytics. It only works if they can shift the culture away from nerd haven (aka people with adblockers who despise being advertised to and won’t click through) to facebook grandmas and ig normies that apparently love clicking ads.

    They’re at least somewhat successful: while I and most of the people on this platform have shifted away from reddit they aren’t bleeding users like you want to believe. They’re not seeing exponential growth either, but they are seeing shifts to some of those populations. Anecdotally I have several family members in their 40s and 50s who were known for facebook drama and they are adopting tiktok and reddit nowadays. They eat up the obviously fake shit on relationshipadvice and places like that bc they’re primed from spending all day scrolling ig and youtube shorts to just digest content without any questioning of veracity and they ultimately love the outrage cycle.

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  • [+] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    What was once a beautiful and accessible tapestry of independent contributions

    Reddit has been flooded with bots for decades. Bot engagement was a strategy the firm used to outcompetes Digg, as admins discovered any kind of engagement in comments juiced human participation.

    The site's had quality contributions in the past. I'd argue it still does, in the more neglected and low pop corners of the site. But it's central thesis of stack-ranked engagement and search optimized meta-tagging fueled the worst kind of online participation straight back to the early days.

    Reddit's last ten years of decline has more to do with the overall decline of the Internet as a service than anything the admins have done directly. Humans have been crowded out by automated promotion tools and AI Slop everywhere. Reddit's just a big popular spot that got hit hardest.

    It was never a good site.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago

    So it's only up by about 400% instead of 410%.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    As a reminder, that any social network can be captured, if it relies on central control.

    But competition is good at least.

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    That same post on Reddit was what encouraged me to look for alternatives. So here I am...

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    Well welcome aboard! Lemmy is a great substitution once you learn to cope with the fact that there is less content generally, but it is a much better community. Of course that depends on the instance you choose but you can always just silence the ones you don't want. I came here back during the api fiasco and I've never looked back. I can't even imagine using Reddit now. My wife still scrolls on it and it's so cringe, all bots and the same tired inside jokes. I like it here much better. We still get dumb jokes but it isn't nearly as bad as Reddit.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    Totally forgot about digg, did not even know it was making a comeback. It even has the old logo on it, holy nostalgia

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago*

    BBS Prodigy CompuServe Slashdot Fark Kuro5hin Digg Reddit Lemmy Digg?

    Say it ain't so

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Well, I guess the diggers pushed it down this time. Still not joining, but I'm glad for the impact.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Bring as many good Reddit users to Lemmy or Piefed and make it go down to zero.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago*

    diggs front page is more appealing than piefed or lemmys ever is (I prefer piefed/lemmy) But if I didn't join these and just got banned off reddit, id be all over digg and not considering piefed or lemmy because of the perceived barrrier, might not even hear about them because of no advertising

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    Unfortunately probably temporary. Digg is very unlikely to be a better reddit. They dont have the content or the users.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    That's pretty nonsensical logic.

    By that logic, reddit never would have been a thing, because they didn't have the content or the users, because they were all on digg.

    No one migrated en masse to Lemmy because making an account here is too much work for someone to just hop on over and check out.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    No one migrated en masse to Lemmy because making an account here is too much work for someone to just hop on over and check out.

    On the plus side, Lemmy doesn't force you to make an account in order to view it. That's becoming increasingly rare these days. It used to be normal to lurk for a while and get a feel for a site before taking the jump to making an account, but so many places won't let you view a damn thing unless you sign up (and then when you have an account, they try to force their app onto you. Because of course.)

    At least with Lemmy, newcomers can browse around and decide if making the account is worth it. The choices involved in picking an instance might not draw in crowds, but hopefully it'll draw in those who actually want to engage with the site. Quality over quantity.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    You can browse digg and reddit without an account.

    I agree with some quality over quantity, but we really need a bigger base than 50k to get more people on. With only 50k there's pretty much no user base for any instances\topics that aren't very popular.

    For instance, there's no user base for an instance about yo-yo's here. But reddit is so big that \throwers has a subscriber count as large as the entire user base of Lemmy. We don't need 50,000,000 people here, but having a couple million would make a world of difference.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Lol wut. There has been massive migration to lemmy.

    And the content quality dropped after.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Ok, let me add this to the logic: reddit is not bad enough for most users to move away from it.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    If digg opened up api calls (no idea what they're at on this right now) and has better implementation for keeping out bots with fewer ads; all the sheep will enjoy being a part of a mass exodus.

    It was less bad on digg around 2010 or so when everyone bailed from there to reddit, than what reddit currently is right now.

    It's still stupid easy to make an account and create a sub. I've been on the internet since no one owned a cell phone and a modem gave you less than 3KB\s speeds. I've watched a lot of .coms that seemed unstoppable become worthless in a manner of a few months. If a few million people decide to head over to digg, the other 40 million will happily follow. It will be fun for them to do. It happening is anyone's guess.

    There was a time when aol owned the internet, dogpile was the greatest search engine, Yahoo was the defacto email provider, Craigslist was the only and best way to make local sales, and MySpace was where you put yourself up at on the internet.

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  • [–] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    https://digg.com/?feed=all-digg - for folks like me.

    I wonder if my Digg username still exists...

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    It wiped and all is new. I made my same email and user name I had there from like 20 years ago. I was a bit sad it didn't say I had been on there since like 2005. I don't plan on using the account much, but I'd be damned if some bot or something took my old user name before I got it.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    i did make my script that cross posts from redddit yesterday so that might have something to do with it

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    The dumb thing about these tech company evaluations is they're always based on a degree of future growth that could never possibly happen.

    Even after this big plummet it's still got a price:earnings ratio of 145 (by comparison, most others industries have PE ratios around 15-30), which suggests there's a lot of people who think that Reddit is going to find some magic way of growing by a factor of 10, despite its current brief spurt of profitability only being the result of them burning a ton of goodwill.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Terrible UI. I have no idea why people put up with those fake divs that take forever to load in.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Digg? What year is this.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Diggnation on revision 3 before YouTube existed

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    [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Great, but still fuck Kevin heart.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Usually that's an initial scare. People should observe the tendency, which should reflect the forum's momentum, which could take a few days.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Checks the P/E

    106

    Still absurdly overvalued. Let me know when it gets under 20

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Will digg federate?

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    I have used Digg since couple of months (it was in private beta). As of then, the only AI they used was for providing summaries for articles/links which is not the worst use case. Of course, app is slow, communities are restricted to a few set of default (Atleast until couple of weeks ago) and worst of all, low user activity. Like, till a month before, it was impossible to see any post that even got 100+ up votes (they have a ranking/leaderboard system where it showed the deficiencies in the system).

    Sure with public beta, user activity will go up. Digg till now had one advantage and that was literally no trolling (but when you have such minimal activity it is not surprising).

    The site and official app both aren't exactly lean and I don't think third party official alternatives(apps) are available (or will be) yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    digg... A blast from the past!

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Wow, not a lot of engagement going on.

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