Donald Trump's desire to annex Greenland will not be thwarted and there could be meaningful U.S. action related to the Arctic island within "weeks or months," according to a senior administration official.

That's the view of Thomas Dans, Trump's Arctic commissioner. He's regarded as one of the main proponents of the president's interest in Greenland, an idea first brought to Trump by billionaire and former diplomat Ronald Lauder.

Dans has been working on the issue since 2020.

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[–] 98 points 10 months ago (15 children)

If the military goes ahead with this, that's it, this country is fully done. Which also means the military will fight US citizens if asked. Simple.

People of the US arm yourselves, join a resistance group, or get the fuck out as soon as you can. Remember wars are won with logistics and people helping logistics.

Hate that this happening

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  • [–] 65 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I just wanna see the rest of the world actually impose consequences on the Untied States. A part of me fears the rest of the world will do exactly as the American government has been doing and fail to enforce anything

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Why would any other country put its citizens in harms way when americans are not willing to save their own country?

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm saying if the Untied States invades Greenland. Then Trump will be causing problems outside of the Untied States

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    He's not suggesting other countries save our own country, he's suggesting they stand up for themselves and impose consequences on the regime in a way we haven't been willing to. And it wouldn't really take fighting. Dumping treasury bonds and ending use of the dollar in trade and as a reserve currency would be devastating. The US is 40 trillion in debt with a huge trade deficit. We're deeply vulnerable.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago

    I've read that the S.O.P. in such situations is for the country in question to simply default on all debt, then there is an accounting-adjustment, then the establishment moves-on, with some restructuring of who owns what, but it doesn't break countries to just decide they're not paying debts.

    Especially when those countries are more central.

    Sure, it might bankrupt many, but .. who cares? Money doesn't.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Why aren't other countries putting economic sanctions on America? Why aren't other countries boycotting the upcoming World Cup or Olympics?

    We're expected to voluntarily destroy our nation for their entertainment, but they won't even give up a soccer tournament.

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The US is already attacking it's own citizens.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Ramping up talk about invading an ally nation seems like a really, really good distraction from raping children.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    Well, which is it? I wanna be able to mark my calendar

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    If this happens, I predict that Trump will make his move in late October. It's the sweet spot for diverting everyone's attention to NATO's response. It also gives a few weeks for Trump to launch a followup attack on Iceland or Ireland if NATO doesn't hit back.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Hello? It’s Greenland. The sun disappears around then, which will favour NATO forces. The USA military isn’t well trained or equipped for that, compared to Denmark/Canada/Finland/Sweden etc., and oddly has a personnel deficit in terms of training and snowmobiles if it’s fullblown war with NATO’s remnants. Greenland is a special environment, and kills equipment and noobs alike.

    They have to try in the late spring, then act like they own it with bluster and bullshit.

    As usual, the corpulent US military will be able to occupy the nation easily in a few days, but holding it? While things fall apart at home, and strategic priorities pop up in the pacific and Latin America?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Huh. I suppose that means Greenland in April, and then Canada in October.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Right, but they’d have an even harder time holding Canada, plus it would start a civil war, so not as likely.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Because attacking a friendly allied (Greenland) is just met with a shoulder shrug among the American public…

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I think you’re being sarcastic? Sure the end of NATO and subsequent murderous imperialism might trigger a major political rupture in the USA, especially when the economic losses and body counts come in, but there’s a possibility the magafascists can spin things along with just a lot of dissent and lost trade. If civil war doesn’t start over that, pretty sure some states would move to secede over an invasion of Canada.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    17% of US citizens apparently are of the opinion that the US should take Canada, according to another story..

    68 million, -ish, US citizens, are of that opinion?

    It's only a matter of time, then.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Going to reiterate this: The US taking Greenland is how WW3 starts.

    Either NATO bites it's tongue and does a Chamberlain to try prepare for Trump invading Canada/Iceland or they trigger A5 and we're at war. Russia will take advantage of this and Europe gets spit roasted.

    Good luck, everyone.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I thought Russia had already fucked itself in Ukraine? If it has such military might why is it not winning there?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Nah I'm betting NATO does jack all and continues to be subservient to the USA.

    It's like watching a "how much can they get away with" show with no practical limit.

    A much easier way to start WW3 would be for a sizable country to copy the US, like China taking Taiwan.

    The reason is that the US itself has to be on board with an opponent that threatens to do the same thing, meaning they'll lose "territory".

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Nah I’m betting NATO does jack all and continues to be subservient to the USA.

    I don't think that will be the case. Consider:

    Trump has demanded another NATO territory (Canada) or perhaps if he doesn't think he could get away with that he could start to demand Iceland. With Trump, it looks like it will be the case of "give a mouse a cookie".

    And rNATO has made it clear that they do not want America taking Greenland, it's one of the things they are actually standing up to America on. So the question remains: Appeasement to buy time (The Chamberlain Strategy) or send in the Troops to fight the yanks.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    They let Germany have Poland. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him take it. Only when he tries invading Canada will the rest of the world do something.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    They very much did not let Germany have Poland. That is generally considered to be the first day of the first second world war.

    They let Germany have Czechoslovakia, and Chamberlain only really did that because he knew that if he didn't, Britain wouldn't have time to prepare.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    What would the rest of the world do??

    EU would be abandoned, because the Americas would be in war,

    Putin is committed to his "Tsar" pretense rampaging Europe imperially, but economically, he's toast,

    so he has to allow China to supplant Russia, in exchange for continued-economic-function..

    Asia, abandoned by the West, as Russia rampages the EU & US rampages Canada & Central & South America & wages Civil War .. gets rampaged by China..

    etc.

    Total regional consolidation, & each region essentially ignoring all the rest, because everybody is fighting-for-their-lives or fighting-to-exterminate-all-regional-independence.

    Nobody's going to affect any other region, during these next 5-10 years.

    Once this stage of it is finished, then the regions deathmatch.

    simple.

    Just wait for Trump's "miracle-cure", & then his Purge happens, & .. all the rest of the dominoes go down

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago
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    How many fronts do these idiots think we can fight? We're going to have military in Venezuela, now Greenland, eventually Colombia, Mexico, Iran, maybe Canada, perhaps Taiwan, and every city in America, and plenty more, when he thinks of them. We have a big military, but it's not that big.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    3 fronts:

    • using Greenland to enforce annexation of Canada
    • Civil War 2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance
    • southward, on everyone, Mexico, Panama, Venezuela, the Carribean, Colombia, etc.

    Everywhere else'll simply cease to be relevant, in the Americas.

    Asia gets abandoned, so China begins conquering it.

    EU, abandoned, gets rampaged by "Russia", which will be Putin's pretence but China supplanting Russia within, to provide the economic engine for Putin's war, but he'll have to scrounge lives for his imperial meat-grinder from wherever he can get them.

    It converts the entire world into regional-consolidation, aka Conquering: everybody not even bothering with other-regions.

    Once this stage of WW3 is done, then the regions deathmatch, beginning next-decade.

    That war-of-attrition goes on for decades.

    The Great Filter.

    Toddler-meaning, backed with the whole planet's militaries.

    Tantrum/pogrom until it breaks the world, to "MAKE GOD OBEY!!"

    Why should it be surprising, given "politics"?

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    The military has already told Trump to fuck off about Greenland. Let’s see.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    So everyone who said NO is no longer there?

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No, they are now on OUR side. MAGA hasn't figured out that whenever they fire a knowledgeable experienced operative, and replace them with a loyalist podcaster, they strengthen our side, and cripple theirs.

    Do you honestly think that all those high ranking officers, who spent years navigating the landmines of military promotions until they got to very top, are going to allow these frat-boy putzes to just unceremoniously and humiliatingly kick them out, and they'll just fade into the sunset?

    A few, maybe, but most are cut from that cloth. We haven't heard much from ex-presidents, ex-military officers, ex-intelligence officers, etc. I think its highly unlikely that they are all just sitting at home, screaming at the TV like the rest of us. We also aren't hearing much from foreign leaders, who clearly hate what is happening.

    It is likely that at least some of them are in touch with each other, and with foreign leaders, and are forming a strategy to oppose MAGA if they are stupid enough to try to end elections and steal the government. They will have Red Lines that will trigger a response.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Find it hard to believe that any current or former officer in the military is collaborating with another country. Even if it’s an “ally”.

    Some general is not going to ask France or UK or Germany to “step in” if MAGA tries to steal elections and none of those countries want to.

    There’s not going to be some secret sect of the military that’s going to save us when things keep getting worse. As far as we know the military had near 100% compliance committing war crimes by bombing those civilians in the Caribbean and kidnapping a foreign head of state.

    I’ll be surprised if we’re not at war with NATO by end of this year over Greenland. It gives Trump every cover to do whatever the hell he wants.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    He NEEDS Greenland, in order to snuff Canada's EU-lifeline, when he enforces his annexation of Canada.

    Greenland's a means, not the true goal: continental-kingdom is his goal.

    & how's he going to justify the draft ( as a means of eradicating the "woke" ) if he hasn't got a war to fight?

    Nobody understands, or accepts..

    Trump's going to obliterate civilrights shortly, & his dictatorship will be warring on 3 fronts:

    • northward
    • civil war 2: confederate reverse-takeover & vengeance
    • southward, imperially rampaging Central & South America, the Carribean, etc..

    & there's no longer anything that will prevent or stop this: sitting-on-hands-until-too-late is all that's being done.

    So, Trump will do to Canada what Putin's been doing to Ukraina.

    Then, of course, EU's isolated, & Putin, backed by China or BRICS, will "take care of them".

    It's all dominoes, now.

    1 month more, or something?

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago

    They should tell him harder. How funny would it be if this is what convinced the military to do a coup and they vacated every branch of government with snap elections.

    Utter bastards though they are, it's quickly becoming the only mildly plausible scenario in which normalcy (briefly) returns.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    They'll just call General Razin Caine, he'll kill anyone they want, as long as they keep calling him General Razin Caine in their speeches, which they will, because they love calling him General Razin Caine because they are dumb Apes who think it sounds wicked cool, dude.

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    [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    “… or even years!” — he said while everyone else was moving on and not caring for whatever nonsense was coming out of his mouth.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    That's the view of Thomas Dans, Trump's Arctic commissioner. He's regarded as one of the main proponents of the president's interest in Greenland, an idea first brought to Trump by billionaire and former diplomat Ronald Lauder.

    Okay, so this is just as meaningless of a quote as it sounds like. "The guy in charge of trying to extort Greenland says that the extortion is going great and it could be done tomorrow or next month (or next year, or next decade, or never)."

    Way to go, USA today. You successfully reported nothing while also acting as a megaphone for the shitheads in charge.

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