Shame a lot of them just refuse/are too scared to ever recognize it. The rest of us suffer for it.

don't forget the Marines in Los Angeles

the National Guard is part of the army

Trump thinks ICE is just cold army.

PolitiFact | Trump said that Gov. Tim Walz didn’t call in the National Guard in 2020. Walz’s order shows he did.

Tim Walz signed an executive order May 28, 2020, calling up the Minnesota National Guard to respond to riots

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/aug/07/donald-trump/trump-said-that-gov-tim-walz-didnt-call-in-the-nat/

oh no, anyway

The National Guard is a branch of the Military (I believe the Army).

Also, didn't he send the Navy after some people in California a while back or am I hallucinating that?

The pixels are how you tell it's aged of course

I guess my question is whether "reluctant" (yet unrepentant) Trump voters ought to be held responsible for the awful shit Trump does, for the things that they were aware of but did not consider to be a deal-breaker. Because I think they should, and I think it's perfectly valid to criticize "reluctant" Kamala voters on the exact same basis.

Ultimately, you make a decision, and if your reservations about a candidate are not significant enough to be represented in that decision, then do they really matter? Do they matter enough that other people ought to be expected to care about them? "Libertarians" who vote Republican are just Republicans, they don't consider their differences significant enough to break with them, so why should I bother to make a distinction?

It's pretty easy to understand. The people who don't get it are the ones who are only capable of one-dimensional thought. They can't hold multiple, complex beliefs, so they assume you can't either.

Centrists will never understand this.

They also cannot understand that someone can say something centrists want is a losing issue and still be willing to vote for a centrist candidate, while being able to notice that they're gonna lose if they keep it up.

Also explains the reaction to Mamdani. Centrists didn't get the sex pest they wanted and went from "blue no matter who" to "party unity my ass" immediately. No progressive legislators badmouthed harris like gillibrand did with her disgusting Islamophobic attacks against Mamdani.

Centrists think everyone is like they are, inasmuch as they don't believe at all in their stated principles and will vote third party if they don't get their very first choice. We saw this in 2008 as well when they formed a fucking PAC to elect mccain because they didn't want to vote for a black man. For all the blame they throw at the left for 2016 and 2024, progressives never formed a PAC to elect trump. But if Sanders had won the nomination in 2016 or 2020, I have no doubt that we would have seen centrists campaigning for trump like we saw them campaigning for cuomo and mccain.

Because Lemmites only see things in binary.

You're either a communist or a disgusting fascist nazi

probably the part where she doesn't care that people are disgusted by her being pro-genocide

Yeah, it was pretty simple for anyone capable of making decisions without deferring entirely to their feelings.

The stats prove Dems are better for our economy (and rights). We were coming off a legislatively successful Democrat presidency. Serious strides were made for the working class and we were recovering from the pandemic better than any other 1st world nation. The Dem candidate was a career prosecutor with a doctorate in law.

On the other hand we had the side that the stats show are awful for our economy (and war). The candidate was an already failed president with two impeachments and an insurrection under his belt. With a doctorate in nothing but dipshittery.

You have to be pretty stupid to NOT go with option 1, including by staying home or voting for a 3rd party candidate with absolutely ZERO possibility of winning. Regardless of whether you're mad that they're maintining an allegiance with a foreign nation you aren't exactly happy with. Foreign affairs aren't exactly simple. Especially with an ally you want to keep for their strategic geopolitical position.

But, as we've learned, most Americans prefer to think with their feelings instead of their intellect. And now gestures broadly.

I just don't see how things are going to get better with a nation full of people this dumb.

They're funded like an army.

And growing in numbers.

Staffed mostly by ex-military. Funded by the federal budget like the military. Use military grade weapons and armor. Move in packs like their army training.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

There was also National Guard troops that were deployed across major cities...

over there:
"where meme?"

here:
no 'no politics' rule.

I was torn first.

Why did she spend so much time courting Republicans? It's a mystery

Not a mystery. That's what the overpriced consultants the DNC hired told them to do. They said to stop using the slogan never back and told Tim Walz to stop calling Trump and Vance weird.

She not only took a knee, she did it before election night was even over.