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[–] 227 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] 106 points 10 months ago (11 children)

I have sympathy for the moderators but not a lot. The should have unionised and demanded a salary a long time ago.

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  • [–] 49 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    And I’ll add Lemmy/Piefed, actually the whole fediverse, should be run by co-operatives. I’m on Aussie.zone for nothing I add nothing to the instance I’m just a drain on resources. I should pay a yearly fee to be part of the community and should at the very least meta moderate. Like slashdot Uwe to do whereafter a period of time you got to review moderator choices and agree or disagree with the decision. Which based on criteria would the. Allow you to first person moderate.

    In short:

    • contribute to costs.
    • moderate the moderators
    • moderate
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  • [–] 64 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    On one hand, yes. On the other hand, the moment paying for Lemmy becomes commonplace, is the moment financial interests would ruin everything. A donation model makes more sense.

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Co-op is just donation model with voting rights. Like a community non-profit organisation

    Sure http://piefed.influercercancer.social/ could decide to have paid content but that’s their decision. Any other instance can de-federate from them as easily as they can a Nazi instance

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    You'd like lemmy.dbzer0.com (lemmy) or anarchist.nexus (piefed) then. Run by the same folks.

    Not a co-op, but they've put in place systems for instance users to democratically vote on all big administrative changes, any user can start a "radical" vote to oust any mod or admin, and people who have donated to the running costs (even just once) get more vote. Enough that people invested get more weight, but they wouldn't be able to completely override the will of the rest of the userbase.

    Politically anarchist, pro-piracy (head admin and creator is former head mod of reddit's r/piracy), accepting of AI (mostly pushing for local models, so corps aren't the only ones with power) but don't really have issues with anti-corp-AI views as long as you aren't being a dick to the pro-AI comms/users.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    The should have unionised and demanded a salary a long time ago.

    Yeah, mods who tried to do that kind of thing were simply replaced as I recall it, and their subs transferred to new mods. Reddit is pretty much down the capitalist hellhole at this point.

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  • [–] 76 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)

    mods are free will slaves on reddit

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    But being allowed to be an asshole is priceless.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yep, i got perma banned for bullshit. Tried to question it and was simply told the ban was upheld. Fuck reddit mods.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    banned for 3 weeks. Fill this form in explaining why you shouldn't be banned and we'll review it.

    permabanned

    Every fucking time. Fuck those fucks. I've received fairer treatment from the playground bully.

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  • [–] 60 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I gotta unpack this a little...

    Reddit's main source of revenue is advertising. Other companies pay Reddit to shove ads in your face. You probably buy products from at least some of those companies, and while market forces and consumer perceptions have large influence, operating costs are still a factor in setting those prices. Just like everyone else, Reddit sets the prices of its advertising services based in part on its operating costs, which includes Spez's salary.

    Even if you avoid Reddit, things you buy are more expensive because this fucking toolshed gets paid $193 million a year just to be a sociopathic jackoff with a popular website.

    I quit Reddit years ago, but I'm still fucking pissed about this shit and I have every right to be.

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  • [+] -18 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    You're funny. You think Reddit is the only place these tools get paid. So many of these are from other sites as well. And they dish out money to all of them.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Not exactly sure what you missed or what your point is supposed to be.

    The same would be true of any ad platform. I hate Facebook for all the ills it's caused society and it pisses me off that my breakfast cereal is slightly more expensive because of Zuckerberg's compensation package too.

    But Facebook, et al. aren't being discussed here. Reddit is.

    Even if I stay off the internet completely, a portion of the money I spend STILL goes in their pocket, and the only way to prevent it is to spend hours exhaustively researching every product I buy to find the one or two alternatives out of hundreds of others that don't feed into the system somehow. And even if product A doesn't buy ads on these platforms, the place I shop for it probably does. If I can't buy direct, as is the case with so many purchases, all that time and research are robbed of any real impact by the fact that my closest retail outlet spends millions on targeted Internet ads.

    But it's not really about the money though, it's about where it's going.

    In an alternate timeline, Spez, Zuck, and the rest are decent human beings with a functioning conscience and use their platforms for the common good. I don't mind those versions of them getting a piece of my alternate self's dollar. But I don't live in that universe.

    So, because I'm stuck here, every single one of these modern-day Prometheus wannabe, god-complex, techbro shitheads can kiss my hairy ass.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    That doesn't make them wrong, it just proves the companies are even worse than was originally implied cause they do this same scumfuckery all over the place. Congratulations, you played yourself.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I'm pretty sure my point was that they were worse then this dude said. I didn't play myself, I just proved how many dumb fucks are in this site that don't know how to fucking read you fucking tool.

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    No one deserves that much no matter what they've done. To squeeze that much out of the company requires taking away from employees, the company as a whole and advertisers.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    According to a google search, reddit has 2,233 employees. Meaning his bonus is ~$86.5k per employee.

    Whenever I see these giant C suite bonuses announced, it seems hard to imagine why every single staff member doesnt demand a massive raise, and they all strike till they get it. After all, the company has just proven they have the massive piles of extra cash and can afford it.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Because it takes organization to get everyone to strike, especially when a majority of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. This is why corporations are also very anti-union. It’s how that organization happens. It’s how we got a 5-day work week!

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  • [–] 37 points 10 months ago (1 child)
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    reddit these days is very different. i remember people were buying each other reddit gold back in the day to pay for the site so it wouldn't have to bend to advertisers and their rules. now reddit is big business

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago

    We should have absolute caps on incomes and wealth. In no fair world, would anyone be compensated with enough wealth to buy a fleet of mega yachts.

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago

    Lemmy.World is far batter than Reddit, I Love Lemmy

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  • [–] 28 points 10 months ago (1 child)
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    Pissbaby of reddit*

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago

    greedy little pig-boy

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    This is what people mean when they say profit is theft

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Steve Huffman is a pedo sympathizer.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    No no, he is a pedo. He used to run r/jailbait.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I know that's a funny bit of trivia to bring up, but the actual reason that was the case is because once upon a time the mod of a Subreddit could add other users as mods without needing them to accept. Someone added his account as a mod and the dude likely didn't even notice. He probably has some assistant running his account.

    Reddit has turned into a dumpster fire, and that dude is like all the other greedy billionaires, but I don't think it's necessary to perpetuate false facts.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    There's no way he did not know about the /r/jailbait sub, and he and reddit at large, allowed it for a long time

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    There was a lot of dodgy stuff on Reddit. Whether or he personally knew about all of it is one thing, but Reddit as a company allowed it up until it became fiscally advantageous to remove it. It was never about censorship vs free speech like the end users always argue about.

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  • [–] 20 points 10 months ago

    The date on this article is March 19, 2024. I don't mind, really every day Spez is discomfited is a good day, just something to be aware of. I thought it was odd when they were mentioning the IPO filing as being the source of the information, and that's when I looked for the date.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago

    He looks like he is still searching for his 'precious'

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I quit Reddit long ago; cast your vote by deleting your account!

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    Is that why he looks like a bag of methed-out prairie dogs?

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    He’s laughing, manchild has no regrets.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago*

    "I have a hemorrhoid. It's like an infected blood vessel on your ass. I'm nine years old, and I have a hemorrhoid, Stan. I have a hemorrhoid, and, Cartman has his own theme park."

    Ok so I don't actually have a hemorrhoid, but bad things do happen to good people. And Cartman has $193M in this example.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    backlash from unpaid moderator

    They have their chance two years ago but they didn't stand up, they fold once the admin bark just a bit. They openly stated that their obligation are to the user of the sub, so they should continue to serve quietly. If they still continue to use reddit after all this year seeing spez being paid millions while they work and generate content and effort for the company, then i have no sympathy.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Its called Reddit because authoritarianbrainwashingwebsite.com is too long for addled brains to type.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Really is the decade of pedophiles making huge paydays, isn’t it?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Spez sucks, but is there any proof of that? My understanding is that back then you could make anyone a moderator against their will, which someone did with r/Jailbait... 🤢

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    That was after he gave the head mod of the sub an award for the traffic it was bringing the site. Steve Huffman was explicitly aware of the jailbait sub before and after being made a moderator of it. He is best case scenario a pedophile sympathizer.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    He owned the website. He controlled it completely. He wasn’t powerless to stop them from making him a mod (which he remained for a long time, even when people pointed it out publicly) and he wasn’t powerless to remove the literal child porn subreddit before it became a national news story.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I don’t know if he is personally. I do know they were handing out physical trophies to people who made communities that made them money, including people posting underage girls.

    Oh, and also I got banned for saying we need harsher penalties for people who harm children. Probably bot flagged, but upheld in a review.

    He may not be one, but Reddit generally stands with pedophiles, and opposes people who stand against them. And historically have done.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    Fuck you spez

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    fuck that bitch - ruined the greatest site on the internet

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    I mean he ruined Reddit and took their IPO from like $30 to $250. Investors don’t give two shits about the user, if they can make more money.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    how much of that do the power tripping ban crazy mods get again?

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  • [+] 48 points 10 months ago (24 children)
  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    to be fair, theres still a lot of really good info on there, by the matter of sheer volume alone. i learned a lot about linux for instance, from reddit the last couple years. Sadly lemmy doesnt yet have the volume that would have been able to foster the same amount of learning for me. heres to hoping lemmy grows faster by the day :)

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I have found on Lemmy that you simply need to ask the questions to get the answers you want. While the user count may not be as high as on reddit, people here are way more active, and most of the commenters I've seen (especially in the tech communities) seem wicked smart and know what they are talking about.

    We don't have the massive backlog of posts with the same questions asked over and over again on every topic, but that doesn't mean the knowledge isn't here. Engage, make posts, ask questions! We'll get there.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I know people hate ai, but honestly Linux questions especially the low hanging fruit is perfectly answered by chat gtp etc.

    Part of the reason I switched was exactly because I didn't have to google 10 different forums and could just ask for the answers. And you can keep asking clarifying questions to get more detail.

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    A vocal minority in a specific set of bubbles hates AI. Large numbers of people just quietly use it.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    ...yes, large numbers of the dumbest people on the planet, combined with the ACTUALLY vocal minority of pro-AI self-hosters who get butthurt when you call AI problematic.

    The population is widely, increasingly, becoming fed up with AI. I work in the actual world, and I speak with dozens of different people every day. Resoundingly sentiment is either unaware of AI or despises it.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Sure thing. ChatGPT is the top app on both iOS and Android for no reason. I'm sure people are just about to realise that LLMs only hallucinate and give you what you want to hear, and the world will be back to how it was.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    no offense, but "i work in the actual world" comes off rudely dismissive, and possibly a bit narrow minded. like, how did saying that help support your argument at all, and why assume others dont exist irl?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Because if someone doesn't preface with the fact that they are referring to real, lived experiences and not twitter screenshots, then they are dismissed as being chronically online.

    The stuff you said? That's how you read it and perceived it, but it's not what is said. And it's not my job when arguing with people about dumb internet shit to figure out and account for how an offhand refutal comment will come off.

    I also don't care if I'm being rude or snide. If you feel belittled, then you are insecure. I'm just a random douchebag on lemmy whose direct opinion of you, you shouldn't care about. So if you feel belittled, it's your own fault. Block and move on.

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