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[–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

Ah, the Israeli technique of preemptive self-defense

Wonder how long before Trump talks about 'narco terrorists' having 'human shields' in the schools and hospitals

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago

    They didnt even put the "self defense" in quotes which means the author is actually just straight up that horrible of a person.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago

    "We defended ourselves from their attempt to defend themselves from us."

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago

    why didnt venezuela just obey the LEOs orders? turn over your whole government, its a legal court order! stop resisting

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    Kill the nazis

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago*

    "So I break into this guy's house and he shoots at me, right? Well, I shoot him back, in self-defense."

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    ABC is owned by Disney, of course they'd report this way...

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    NBC News is part of the USA regime's propagandist media.

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    [–] 38 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The home invader defended himself against the owner with a baseball bat.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago

    the victim complex is astounding

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    other-offense

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Every violent action they take is self defense somehow.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Post needs accessibility: post's URL field can be filled in.Images of text break much that text alternatives do not. Losses due to image of text lacking alternative such as link:

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    Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images.

    Media literacy: how do quotes & paraphrases work?

    @JUNlPER
    this is always one that gets me. so many people are unable to realize that you can present characters doing something bad without endorsing it. not sure when this kind of baby brained thing started but its so silly to see so often

    @ducktales2020
    more than anything they conflate Presenting Something with Agreeing With Something, but don’t apply it to good guy/bad guy narratives. when everyone’s bad they short circuit

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    They didn't call it anything though? It was a direct quote?

    Also, if criminals are trying to kidnap you and you fight back, is that not self-defence?

    As a non-American, what context an I missing, and what am I supposed to be outraged about based on that snippet of a quote?

    Edit: of course I'm outraged by the whole invasion, but what did ABC do here other than publishing a quote?

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    This is indeed a quote, so ABC is just repeating what the source said. However, the source is an American Joint Chiefs Chairman, he is saying that the invading American forces were fired upon and responded in self-defence. Which is a weird take.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 10 months ago

    Perhaps they should have also interviewed someone not from the Trump establishment about how a bunch of armed US kidnappers shooting at Venezuelan defence forces while abducting their President cannot be characterized as "self defense".

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    you got it the wrong way around, the article is saying that the kidnap special forces "defended" themselves when the guards of the president attacked the invading kidnappers. defended is a very positive word and aims to put this illegal infiltration, murder and kidnapping (war without a declaration) in a good light. as a clueless teen i used to not think about the substance and material conditions of things. if the overwhelming majority of news i see calls something "defended", i would be swayed. a lot of adults are still clueless, only able to barely survive under the massive stress and pressure that these systems create. they do not care about this nuance out of necessity. they need to survive. this sneaky wordplay is aimed at them.

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