Looking for an alternative to the official YouTube app? A group of Revanced developers have left the project and released Morphe.

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[–] 47 points 10 months ago (19 children)

There's also grayjay, tubular and newpipe if you don't want ads.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    PipePipe too, and it ships with SponsorBlock.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    FYI in case you didnt know, Tubular is a newpipe fork with sponsorblock built in

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (5 children)

    Can I log in with Tubular? Why do I need sponsorblock, if I have newpipe? It already disables all ads.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    NewPipe blocks Youtube from showing you video ads in the middle of your videos.

    Sponsorblock skips the sponsored ad reads, engagement farming, intro segments, etc that the creator puts in the videos themselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Witchcraft, I say!

    Thank you for the info, grabbed it from f-droid and replaced my newpipe shortcut. Can't wait to see it in action.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    You can also install sponsorblock as a plugin in your desktop browser and add new segments that havent been marked yet. Its completely community based like a crowd sourced database of start-end timestamps with tags for what kind of segment it is.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    It's not an automatic system. It's a database of user subtimitted timestamps. But it's pretty popular they get added pretty fast on most videos but the smallest channels. The browser plugin has submission tools to allow you to submit the different segments.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Unfortunately these alternatives suffers from YouTube keep breaking logins then block your IP if you are not signed in after like 3 videos.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    There is no login option in NewPipe or PipePipe, you export your subscription from YouTube as a file and import them in any of these apps.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (2 children)

    The point is YouTube blocks your IP and your video don't load if you don't log in

    I know how this app works, I have used NewPipe for years already, this is a pretty recent problem.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    When that happens to me, I close the app wait 5/10 minutes and it fixes itself.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Actually a longer wait than an ad would be.

    At least some of the weaker twitch ad blocker does tell you it is skipping ads and you get an estimated time it will be back up again.

    I just start up revanced and it just works.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I don't even log in. I subscribe to channels with pipepipe and call it good. I get no ads, notifications on new content, a cleanly organized interface, background play, and easy brightness controls. I personally need nothing else that logging in would provide.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I've found that, at least in my case, the block eventually goes away if I either just wait a while or restart my phone. I'm not smart enough to know why waiting might defeat this, though, so take what I say with a pillar of salt.

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  • [–] [S] 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (8 children)
  • [–] 42 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Can someone tl;Dr this for me? I've gone almost two years without clicking a reddit link and I'm not about to start now.

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  • [–] 39 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Snapshot of comments in those posts. Mostly just governance drama.

    From the new fork https://web.archive.org/web/20260107095954/https://www.reddit.com/r/Piracy/comments/1q1we4e/the_revanced_situation_is_crazy_a_new_project/

    From ReVanced side

    A major contributor submitted a big core change (fingerprint/patcher internals). Maintainers pushed back hard on design and maintainability. The contributor felt stonewalled, got personal, and eventually left. After leaving, they forked the project, copied large chunks of code, squashed commits, stripped contributor history, and allegedly violated GPLv3 rules by changing licensing and attribution. That’s the heart of the dispute.

    From there, both sides started accusing each other of bad faith, harassment, threats, ego, gatekeeping, you name it. A small group rallied around the fork and started saying “ReVanced is dead” which… yeah, that’s the part that caused panic. -- AI generated summary of a 40~ pg document that someone from ReVance uploaded

    Basically the contributor proposed a major redesign to the patcher’s fingerprint system that worked short term but papered over deeper limitations. The maintainers saw it as a band-aid approach that would lock in technical debt and cause long term maintenance problems, so after extensive review they rejected it and pushed for a more fundamental solution instead. The contributor took that personally, issued merge-or-else ultimatums, then left. After leaving, they copied large parts of the code into a new repo, rewrote history to remove attribution, changed licensing in ways that likely violate GPLv3, and went public claiming ReVanced was “hostile” or “dead”. ... For context, the fingerprint system is how ReVanced finds the right parts of YouTube’s code to modify even as YouTube updates and shuffles things around. Inefficient or overly abstract changes increase the chance of things breaking later. The contributor wanted a quick duct-tape style fix, the maintainers wanted a proper redesign, and it all spiraled from there.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for the summary. I don't have a dog in the fight myself. (I use NewPipe) But I'm an FOSS advocate.

    Stripping attribution....that's a GPL violation and that itself is enough to terminate the license. The dates of repo creation and commit dates should be enough to prove causality.

    It's not like the fork couldn't have stood on its own. Like...wtf was the contributor thinking removing the attribution would do?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    The fourth link there is a thread where the maintainer (who didn't leave) posted a 30-page PDF 'receipt' of why the morphe guy was in the wrong, followed by him sealioning any comment that pointed out his entire way of writing is too confrontational, dismissive and blunt.

    If dude knew how to word things constructively/took the same courses Linus had to, this never would have happened.

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    Ehhh?
    Sucks that this is happening because Revanced has patches for lots of apps, and this team seems to be focusing only on Youtube, at least for now.

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    Of course the Revanced leadership fucked up. Why wouldn't they? I mean it's not like the original Vanced project had any issues with leadership that they could have learned from....

    Oh. Right.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Anyone have any info on why people left the ReVanced team? Hadn't heard about this till now.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    If I still used reddit I would be tempted to reply to all of the revanced maintainers comments with a picture of a sea lion, since it looks like those are the only comments he knows how to make.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    I ended up with pipepipe. So much better.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Is it open-source this time, or will Google be able to C&D development again?

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Google C&D'd the original Vanced team because they were stupid and created an NFT out of the logo, which was pretty much just a stylized version of Youtube's own logo.

    The Vanced team claimed otherwise, but the timing was too close to be coincidental.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Never heard of that but I kinda doubt that's reason, since Google also started moving against adblockers in Chrome around that time, and the lost revenue from advertising just seems like a more substantial reason than some copyright NFT stuff.

    Either way, had YT Vanced been open-source at the time someone could have just forked it the next day, so I hope this time around whoever is maintaining the project learned from that.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    This is the first I'm hearing of Morphe. Just downloaded it and set it up. Took 10 mins. Faff level: minor. A couple more steps than I remember from Vanced.

    I was able to login with my YT account and access my music playlist. I've been using Newpipe which is fine, but I've really missed that feature.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    Just tried Morphe, it's basically Revanced with a more streamlined patching/installation. I like it a lot for that alone. But I don't think it's replacing my Revanced until it gets the CPU usage in check. Both phones I ran it on were getting warm after 10 mins of continuous full-screen video.

    Revanced never warmed my phones up.

    I'll give it a while, keep up with the development. Wait it out a bit and try it out again. I'm hopeful.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Some developers threw a tantrum and forked it? Ok bye

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