What about the IDF bombing civilians though?
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Bob Vylan is the band - if they're singling out the frontman, they mean Bobby Vylan (not to be confused with their drummer, Bobbie Vylan). Feels like they might be getting outraged before engaging any reading comprehension...
Well worth checking them out - loads of upcoming dates, all over the UK, EU and US. Get 'em while they're hot!
Remember when Republicans were upset at Universities banning racist speakers?
Free Palestine.
The Gaza war is genocide.
Fuck the IDF.
Please prevent me from visiting the genocide loving USA.
It's very gross that jews really do go through awful shit, and republican morons weaponize it to attempt a desperate, transparent lie about a genocide.
The only time republican losers ever use the language of caring about people is when they think they're being sneaky about being evil.
lol@antisemitism
Oh yes because they've done nothing to deserve the hate, totally innocent bunch of people.
Imagine how hard it must be for anti-Semitism advocacy groups right now, the amount of mental gymnastics they have to perform in order to continue to be the victim must leave them utterly exhausted. I imagine they can only manage one whiny tweet and then they have to take a week off.
Imagine how hard it must be for anti-Semitism advocacy groups right now
Let's be clear,anti-semitism is wrong, and what's been going on isn't helping matters for israel unaffiliated jewish support groups that are actually doing positive work.
Yeah, these days when I read anything about antisemitic crime I always have to check if it'a actually people being racist or if someone just said israel bad. And of course israel doing their genocide is also driving up actual antisemitic crimes, because plenty of people think that israel=all jews, and understandably people are angry so they look for a "deserving" target. Which israel is also not helping with since their constant cries of antisemitism are implying exactly that.
And in reality it's not even all israelis (not like most people living there these days chose it), and while far too many seem to support the genocide, they're also under heavy propaganda.
Oh absolutely, but the problem is that when those advocacy groups call everyone anti-semitic for calling out war crimes, they lose all credibility.
This only works if the reason they hate you is because you're Jewish. We hate them because they're murdering bumblefucks. Not antisemitic at all.
I'm part Cherokee, I should hate the white man. Not because they're white, but because of the trail of tears and nearly eradicating Indians.
It's not racism in the slightest.
Blaming an entire ethnic group for the actions of a few is textbook racism.
I just love how "anti-Semitism" has become "Israel can do whatever the fuck they want and never face any criticism or consequences because Jews were persecuted in the Holocaust." This now includes Israel committing its own Holocaust on Palestinians.
An artist chanting words on a stage at a show.. Isn't this that freeze peach those Republicans claim to support to their dying breath?
I don't see how calling for the death of an institution that's openly committing warcrimes and even admitting to them, is really that outlandish, especially for an artist during a performance.
Gets orders from twitter. Acts on it. Constitutes sends and email or hand written message.. disregards it?
I don't know Vanilla's politics, but he performed for Trump. So did the Village People, though, so who knows. Maybe Trump's a fan and threw a huge wad of cash at him.
Did they spell Bob Dylan wrong?
No it's a different guy with different music.
Took me a second, but I think it's a play on the word "villain"
Kind of a cool name imo
It's this guy https://lemmy.ml/post/32435019
I don't think any action against the IDF or Israel is Antisemitic in any way, shape, or form.
I also see "death to the IDF" as a statement advocating the death of the entire adult population of Israel, and we have a word for that which rhymes with engocide.
oh sorry, let's just politely ask the murderers to stop murdering for the 100th time today, maybe this time it will work!
How does "death to the IDF" mean death to the entire adult population? Regardless of mandatory service in the past, they aren't in the IDF now, and they aren't the ones "just following orders." I also don't think Bob Vylan is actually suggesting that every person in the IDF be killed, regardless of complicity, but calling for the downfall of the organization perpetuating genocide.
"Death to ICE" doesn't mean the same thing as "kill all ICE agents."
So you're making the additional distinction of only people who currently actively serve in the IDF and not any previous members?
Missing the point. "Death to [organization]" is not synonymous with "kill all members of [organization]." Even if it did, my other point is that the entire country is not in the IDF. You've made claims and extrapolations that have nothing to do with anyone's actual beliefs. It wouldn't be genocide regardless.
Listen, too many in this world acts like it's impossible not to make problematic statements about the mass death or exodus of others. I do not have that problem that they seem to find unavoidable. Death to every [blank] is pretty much always a bad statement to make.
Just don't say those things and you will never be misunderstood.
You continue to change the narrative. The did not say "Death to every [blank]." You said that. They said "death to the IDF." If I say "death to capitalism," I'm not saying "kill all capitalists." They're calling for the downfall of an evil organization. You are choosing to misunderstand them and put words in their mouth. You keep walking back your initial exaggeration. They clearly do not mean kill all Israeli adults. This is the same willful misinterpretation that the rest of the neoliberal media does.
If you say Death to Capitalism I also think you're a fucking psycho in that context, too.
It was a hypothetical. Pretending those two statements are the same is willful ignorance. You're continuing to pearl-clutch over a statement that doesn't mean what you're claiming it does. You're putting words and intent I people's mouths and then making moral judgements based off your misinformation. You're making ad hominem attacks against a hypothetical. How are you still trying to justify an untenable position?
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