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[–] 153 points 10 months ago (13 children)

The "no blood for oil" sign hits hard. I saw that when I was young and we invaded Iraq 🤮

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  • [–] 44 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I've seen a theory that even World War One had oil involved in part of the contribution to its cause and tensions.

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  • [–] 47 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Can't speak to the cause, but the west carved up the ottomans after the war for oil and some of that can be directly tied to the shit on the past 30 years

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The existence of Israel and possibly even Syria are both direct results of Britain and France fucking over the Hashemite. Oh also Faisal I also wanted to shitcan the Saudis so add Saudi Arabia to the list.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Israel is it's own can it worms. It was an imperialist project from the start.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Moreso pointing out that if Britain and France actually stuck to their deal and werent massive cunts Israel would not exist as it is now. There would've been no British Palestine to cause problems because the territory would've been under a local generally liberal government instead of a distant uncaring empire.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Not much of a theory, there was a reason Churchill converted warships from coal to oil.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Well... okay that's mainly because oil is superior to coal in almost every logistical and mechanical respect. Even bunker oil is a superior fuel.

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    I see a lot of people comparing this to Iraq but I need to illustrate that Bush, Cheney, and the CIA worked hard to present (inaccurate) intel of aluminium tubes to US Congress, NATO, and the UN.

    That doesn't compare in the slightest to Trump's reckless disregard for laws, democracy, diplomacy, or human life. This is actually a much worse start than Iraq, so far.

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  • [–] 31 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Wasn't his whole campaign based around isolationism? I think it's the one policy that pretty much everybody actually agreed with.

    The US needs to stop getting involved in situations because it always ends badly. Always.

    Of course it turns out he was lying about that too. Classic.

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    [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    "Military intervention"? We're applying the Russian tactics of calling an act of war something different? "Special military operation" style. Right.

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  • [–] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    We all saw the slave markets that happened when gaddafi fell. Oil CEOs need to burn (ideally in some kind of legal process) for this. This kind of intervention always results in a corrupt colonial leader (best case) or an absolute power vacuum (worst case). Either way I'm sure that the number of people fleeing from venezuela are about to skyrocket.

    Its money that would be better spent on healthcare imo. Oil companies are the most subsidized "private" businesses in existence.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Do you really really think this was done at the behest of oil CEOs? Hmm.

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  • [–] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Yes and no. Did they rubber stamp this plan? Prob not. Have they been bitching to republicans about venezuela nationalizing their infrastructure for 20 years? Yes.

    I mean look at cuba. The US has been after them for 70 years because it fucked up a bunch of mobster casino guys grand master plans. The US government will spend 20 dollars on petty business grievances from half a century ago before it pays a dollar helping like a mom in the US pay medical bill for having a baby today.

    Edit: also this

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  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Way to go Americans, general strikes are the only thing that scares them. No one producing the goods they can exploit and lucrate from is the best way to scare those rich parasites and make them reconsider their infamous decisions.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago*

    Imo its more about stopping the planes and shutting down airports. Something that could probably be done with a couple of semi trucks or a few staffing strikes.

    Republicans always cave when the airports shut down.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago

    The media will ignore them, and most people won't even realize they now live under a fascist regime.

    But hey. Trump sure showed those Ghayze a thing or two.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    All those fucking guns dude. What's the point of'em?

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    They had fuckin better

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Oh shit the americans actually are doing something about it

    Well, some tiny fraction of americans, but I didn't expect even that

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  • [–] 55 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The protests in the summer were huge. These were last-minute.

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Our corporate media censored them HARD. Largest protest in US history and it was reported underneath Kim Kardashian's underwear in the NYT. Not making it up.

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  • [+] -37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Lmao not really. Protests are part of the circus.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Anyone celebrating this has no grasp of U.S. history and the other times we've done this and how badly it went every time.

    There are repercussions for invading a nation and abducting their leader (and then stealing their oil).

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    I mean, it's good Maduro is gone, he was really bad for that country. Buuuut that's about it, being positive about all of this. This isn't the way to deal with it. The US has no right doing this (war crime). This isn't about what's best for Venezuela, it's about what's best for Trump his pockets. Maybe the US should think of dealing with it's own dictator first.

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  • [+] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)
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    I can’t figure out if this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, or if it’s satire.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Are you arguing that the EU shunning the US Dollar would not be a very powerful and effective strategy?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    All the armchair radicals about today. Try harder!

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    venezuelans largely celebrated his capture, and the right remains quiet on this issue. so only one party is doing this.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Be careful, apparently I got banned from lemmy.ml for mentioning that the friends I have living in Venezuela see Maduro and "his goons" gone (his words) as great news. The future though is not bright and the people are still very sceptical of Trumps motives. Obviously for us here in the US the writing is on the wall for anyone who's lived through Iraq.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    The problem is "his goons" are not gone, only Maduro...

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    It doesn't matter whether they're happy about it or not, it says a very dangerous precedent and shouldn't be allowed.

    It shouldn't have been allowed in the past either but I wasn't alive then

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  • [+] -45 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Erupted is a really big leap. A few people with the usual signs is hardly a protest.

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  • [–] 75 points 10 months ago* (10 children)

    Jeeze yeah, clearly this wasn't good enough, I can't imagine why anyone bothered since clearly it doesn't matter. Didn't even care enough to print up pithy new signs or anything. Barely even pretending to care. Frankly how dare they, I'm just disgusted at their behavior!

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  • [+] -14 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 21 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I also went grocery shopping and brushed my teeth today, neither of which prevented me from attending the protests. Turns out sluts are capable of being politically and sexually active.

    ...What's your excuse?

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    A reference that's lost on me.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    OH HUSH.

    Did you hear it this time?

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  • [+] -7 points 10 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I can't find a record of us having ever interacted on Lemmy before, are you sure you have the right person?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    What a convenient excuse. It would be a lot more convincing if your line about nashville had any meaning for me.

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  • [+] -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    So... you don't know what it means either.

    Hush.

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  • [+] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    lmfaoooo is that what this is about? Dude, I post nudes on the fediverse. I already use a VPN to help keep weirdos like you from doxxing me. No wonder it didn't mean anything if you were fishing for a reaction to the geoloc of an exit node.

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