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[–] 137 points 1 year ago (10 children)

This becoming the next faux-outrage, Republican/conservative wedge issue in...3...2...1.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    They’re coming fer yer gas lawnmower!

    Like the police will come round and take them.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Counties near me already banned two-stroke engines. Gas leaf blower ban is on the books for a month or so from now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    WTF? Do they even make 4 stroke chainsaws?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They exist, as do electric. I haven't heard anything good about them. ..

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (60 children)

    Good, they aren't needed anymore since electric ones do the same job.

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  • [+] 50 points 1 year ago (8 children)
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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    https://youtu.be/xYdLfkJcfok

    Titled: Somewhat Verbally Abusive "kill your lawn" Instructional Video Nice

    If nothing else it's hilarious. Its dictated by a man who 100% sounds like he just finished breaking some guys knee caps in the other room before disposing of him from The Boss

    (He gets rid of the lawn by cutting the lawn into carpets and flipping them over. He does actually give you information after insulting you for having a lawn)

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’m not sure if it was intentional or if brushless motors are really that much more powerful but electric tools are far better now than they were even just 10 years ago.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Battery pack improvements have to be right up there with why electric have gotten so much better now.

    The new tabless batteries in particular are a good step forward even with older tools. And they are last 18 months or less depending on your tool colour of choice.

    Really big tools like most landscaping or concrete tools that use the really big batteries (think back pack batteries) have an insane amount of watts they can push out.

    I never used petrol tools but I did use mains tools a lot due to the extra power but now 240v is often lower than the top battery tools now.

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  • [+] 15 points 1 year ago (14 children)
  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    A landscaping crew would require more batteries and/or a method to charge on the go. Cost might be prohibitive to do that now but in time it might work out. Imagine if you have a large battery in a trailer that charges up all the small batteries between sites or solar on the roof.

    Considering most landscaping work is done in the summer months maybe a move to a different Lithium chemistry that is cheaper but doesn’t like cold as much could be beneficial for pro tools.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I know a beekeeper who has a power inverter hooked up to his truck. He uses it to charge the batteries for both his power tools and bee vacuum systems. He can even use it to run regular plug-in AC devices. Lawn crews can just have the backup batteries charging while they drive from job to job.

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  • [+] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    These types of companies may not have tons of disposable income to invest in this but as they need new tools it will probably phase in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It probably depends on the batteries, battery market, and repair market. We don't really expect batteries to last a decade. The repairability of these tools is a concern.

    Meanwhile, it's pretty common to repair gas tools. Sometimes from multiple broken ones. Powering the gas tools is similarly simple. None of it requires a company to continue to develop their proprietary product to run.

    This is an industry and a market that has been around for decades. I suspect the limited part supply and limited repairability of the electric tools is going to limit their practical lifetime compared to the existing ones on the market.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    Great point about repairability. I’ve seen some interesting videos of EV repairs on cars with odd pack issues. Very specialized work right now but assuming skills will develop over time that makes it much easier.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Don't forget electric weedeater and mowers are not designed for constant use. My buddy and I back in the day had a mowing business in Dallas, Texas. We had gas mower but electric weedeater. We had to replace it twice because it burn up after using it constant for 3 days. Don't know why we didn't buy gas one. I remember we used electric to begin with because all we had. But later? Guess they were cheaper back then.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Probably burned up the brushes in the electric motors. Those are usually replaceable. Many tools are now available in brushless.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (36 children)

    As a homeowner, sure. However, if I had a landscaping business, I would need something that can run all day.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (33 children)

    Carpenters do just fine all day with electric tools. Replaceable batteries are a thing!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Most of the stuff's pretty good but finish nailers aren't quite there unless you're using the smallest brads available.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Air tools for finish nailer. Any nailer air is going to be better (in my narrow experience with electric nailers, I could be wrong.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Air is definitely the preferred tool for the job.

    Makita just released a new 18 gauge that everybody's gushing over. That said you're not going to get that air Bam Bam Bam Bam Bam. It's more like Bam..wazzit..Bam..wazzit..Bam..wazzit..Bam..wazzit..Bam..wazzit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)

    You underestimate just how big and heavy of a battery you would need to power a leaf blower all day. Gasoline has 50-80x more energy density than a lithium battery.

    I suppose you could bring a bank of smaller batteries with you and swap them out throughout the day, but that means another piece of equipment to lug around, and climate control becomes an issue if you live in a hot climate. Batteries and heat are not a good combo for safety and reliability.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    need to power a leaf blower all day

    That's the magic thing in the word "replaceable". They are, you know, can be replaced. While you use one, the other is charging, and then you replace them. Just like, you know, construction workers are doing for the last at least three decades.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    This all sounds like FUD to me. You might as easily complain about how much harder it is to refill the gas tank than swap the batteries a few times.

    Lithium Ion batteries generally have a maximum optimal operating temperature of 122°F but will operate up to 176°F. If the temperature is approaching 176°F, I think the human will be the first thing to fail.

    Also, nobody needs to lug around a full day of power. Spare batteries can stay in the truck until needed, at most you would have one spare on your person.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fairly certain that a battery will immediately get hotter than its surroundings with any kind of sustained use or charging.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You're talking as if it's some kind of new unknown technology and there is no way to know if it's even viable.
    I was using battery operated tools when I worked in construction like 20 years ago, and they were performing fine.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    I was thinking in the context of a landscaping company driving to a bunch of different clients’ houses and doing general cleanup and maintenance, lawn mowing etc at each one. Electric lawnmowers now have dual battery packs that you can swap between, each one lasting about an hour. I wouldn’t expect a leaf blower to be much different in power requirements. Could probably even share the same battery design with the mower.

    If you’re only doing an hour or less of leafblowing per client then you can just keep swapping batteries and have spares in the van/truck. For a really big job you might need more but then you could probably ask the client if you can plug your charger into their house to charge. I think a lot of people have outdoor outlets. Otherwise you could have a charger in the vehicle.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Power usage on an electric blower is very different than other power tools. With a drill you are not constantly revving it. You use it for a few seconds to drive a screw and then setup for the next one. With the blower it's running continuously.

    I have a drill than can run on a battery for most of a days work, while my leaf blower using the same batteries gets maybe 20 minutes of use, if I am conserving it.

    I'm not a landscaper, so maybe it can be done, but I'll believe electric is better when the landscaping companies start using electric tools, just like carpenters switched from wired to battery when it made sense.

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  • It can take a while to switch over. If a landscaping company has been running for years they’ll have a lot invested into gas powered tools that they aren’t just going to throw away. Plus they’ll have a lot of experience and familiarity with the way their tools work and how they fit into their workday. Switching over to electric would be a big investment in tools plus a bunch of re-training and planning to avoid issues with running out of batteries on a job.

    A company owner who does their research could potentially get ahead of the game and save a lot of money on fuel costs by switching to electric before their competitors.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I work trails, carrying a bunch of batteries out into the woods would be awful.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Do you just assume that Gas powered leafblowers are lighter or did you do some research?

    I did a Quick check and found that electric leafblowers are way lighter and allow you to carry around some extra batteries, without carrying more overall.

    Imo the biggest argument is the price.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think they will eventually make sense. Extra batteries are very heavy and expensive though (I only have experience with Husqvarna and Stihl)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    The Husqvarna battery BLi30 weights 1.9kg. Considering Gas powered leafblowers from Husqvarna are often 6-8kg heavier (up to 10kg for the big ones), you can carry around at least 3 extra batteries without adding weight.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You get 5 minutes drive between clients bud. This whole thread is just City dwellers thinking they're dunking on rural folks without a shit of a clue and it's part of why both conservatives and leftists hate liberals

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    Oh boy, rugged no nonsense suburban cowboy who drives 5 minutes between houses to move some leaves around, is trying to play big.
    You, fucking libs, will not survive a day in out suburban town driving air conditioned truck from home to home to stand on a lawn and blow leaves around. You have no idea how hard the real life is, sometimes you don't even get lemonade from the client, and standing on a lawn is a hard job none of you city dwellers will understand!

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (11 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (10 children)

    Using a rake for 12-14 hour shifts, 5-6 days a week in the summer sun? Get real, my dude.

    What a creative way to tell me you've never worked a day of physical labor in your life, without telling me you've never works a day of physical labor in your life. Raking leaves by hand all day every day would absolutely destroy your shoulders and forearms.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    And I hope I never will. And having to work those kinds of hours to make a living is the really fucked up part of your story.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I don't work labor (edit: anymore) but that's the reality of the world we live in, my dude. Landscaping sucks, and doing it without a leaf blower would suck even more.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Shit sniveling soft handed ass attitude bro, I hope you live surrounded by concrete.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Aww, did reality hurt your feelings? You live in a city don't you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not the one hurling insults, champ.

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    [–] 21 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Got rid of my gas weed trimmer 3 years ago. I’ll never go back. I got a good quality electric. It has enough power to do all the necessary yard work 2x over on a charge. It doesn’t get bogged down. I don’t have to mix two stroke fuel. I don’t have to clean the fuel system after not using it for the winter or store gas over the off season. No worries about spills. Just swap out the batteries and go.

    Blowers have suffered from insufficient power when battery operated. Maybe that’s changed. I’d love an electric mower, but they’re crazy expensive for a decent one.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    My 40v leaf blower is better than a gas blower, because it's just as strong as one and doesn't use gas or oil at all. Also lighter weight and no maintenance. But if you tried an 18v or 20v leaf blower it might not favor as well.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I love my electric mower. I can do my yard *2 on a battery charge. Worth. Also yes it was like 600$ CAD but no more hassles like you mentioned. Peace of mind is a thing AND it's better for the environment.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    My 38v pushes leaves and rubbish around well enough in my eyes. It does chew through the batteries however, which ended up tipping one pack unable to charge without manual intervention.

    Same batteries go in my electric mower, I can mow my backyard on a single cell if I don't leave it too infrequent between.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Electric leafblowers should do a better Job than Gas powered. Linear motors are just better. That's why basically any EV let's Gas powered cars behind at traffic lights.

    A lot of lumberjacks use electric saws more and more.

    The downside obviously is that you cant just refill it on the spot.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If you don't mind a little more effort, a manual lawn mower is fantastic! Plus it's incredibly quiet

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Pollution inefficient, higher maintenance, Loud.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I thought the noise was mainly due to the air

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Do you not have ears?

    I live in a high rise in a metropolis and wish they would be banned. The maintenance crew of the university the other side of the street is using those things in the spring and fall. Exactly the time of the year when I want to open my windows, they, with their ear protection are blasting their engines on and off and on and off and on and off and on and off, while I'm trying to watch a video or listen to some music. Whiiiiiiiiiiir, pap pap pap pap pap pap whiiiiiiiiiir whiiiiir whiiiiiiir whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir pap pap pap pap pap whiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir.

    There's a hundred windows in front of them, and another high rise just the other side of the street. How many people are just as annoyed as I am because those lazy fuckers can't be bothered to use a rake?

    Worse, the maintenance of my own high rise joins them a few times a month to blow the gravel off the fucking concrete around the building. So again, windows open, all you can hear for an hour is those fucking blowers on and off and on and off and on and off.

    The other day I was eating on a terrasse and the handymen were replacing pieces of wood. Well, instead of sweeping the wood chips, he used a fucking blower among the people eating, to "clean up".

    Those things can go to hell for all I care.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I thought the noise was mainly due to the air, so I don’t really see how switching to electric ones would help

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Incorrect, the engine exhaust noise far overwhelms the fan blade air. But sure all sound must travel thru the air. Smarter blade design would cut some noise down as well. And remember the engines are usually most efficient at some high RPM. That's why hybrids rev up their engine even when not moving the car...just being efficient.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Never heard an electric one for comparison but alright

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They still make some noise but its only when you get very close to the blower because the higher pitched noise is more attenuated by the atmosphere and environment.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    That’s nice then

    Now we have to fix the battery problem and it’ll be perfect

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I think that's not a problem these days at all. i have a bunch of battery tools and they all last plenty of time. For a blower I figure a good hour of operation per charge wouldn't be unreasonable. As an example, the usual flight time for RC airplanes is 15 minutes with the cheapest batteries. The reason why is became the charge and discharge rate is usually around 1C which is about 15minutes for the now 20 years old lithium technology. New battery tech is better. I've seen charge times close to 5 minutes now.

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