Don't have many problems with IONOS.
Our customers are usually recommended their S3 Object Storage (Very simple price structure)
I personally have the Business E-Mail due to it's price.
It's a bit limited and no DKIM but sufficient for most things.

What's wrong with IONOS? Their VPS prices are some of the best out there and reliability has never been an issue for me.

Ionos used to be 1&1 which had a fairly poor reputation. Not sure what it's become nowadays. Apparently they haven't gotten much better.

Hey, I had been searching for a reasonably priced NC hosting for a while. I even considered a VPS from Hetzner but somehow didn't find this. Thanks for pointing it out.

The Hetzner Storage Share lacks a lot of features that Nextcloud IONOS have. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think Hetzner has an office suite for Nextcloud?

I actually want AI on my Nextcloud. As long as it runs locally. We've taken thousands of pictures over the years and desperately need some help in categorising them. Unfortunately so far I wasn't able to find any reliable way to automate it.

No. Anytime who has actually done MSP work understand that most businesses are not purchasing office. They are purchasing a compliance and technology and identity control plane that has just about every add on a business needs.

Personal office use has always been a nice secondary.

It’s all just part of their addons, so you choose yourself if you want AI. You can even choose to have local AI, if you don’t want to use an external AI, which I believe is ChatGPT.

I have a nextcloud instance and I can confirm that the ai features are plugins, and are opt-in (and also pretty cool, as ai feature go)

Search your heart. You know which it'll be.

Just branding, market positioning

Probably a case of hidden infrastructure.
I believe (no source) IONOS solely belongs to 1&1 AG of which 'United Internet' has a majority share (that I am sure of).
IONOS = Business focus. Primarily hosting and services
1&1 = End-Consumer focus. Primarily ISP and some other consumer services.

I would assume they count the infrastructure they provide for both 1&1 and IONOS.
Besides that they only have (I think) 2 DCs in Germany and 2 or 3 other locations in the EU and I think 1 in the US.

So in the end I would say it's either Hetzner or OVH and then IONOS as having the most infrastructure.

Pretty much, though collabora is sold for a few additional euros/month. Not all providers for hosted nextcloud have a solution for the office apps (collabora or only office) so i've found it to be Ionos main advantage, along with very nice storage space for the price

I’ve found the docker version very easily to maintain.

Not sure how long ago you tried it. But my first attempt at an install back in 2021 was so much more complicated than when I did it again in 2024. It's been rock solid ever since. I use the docker all-in-one method, it's pretty straightforward. When I went back to college, I decided to use it to organize all my classwork, and it's perfect for that. I still prefer LibreOffice to author papers though.

Using YunoHost saves a lot of hassles

Nah, it'll be CGI.

Owncloud infinite scale seems, well, much more scalable

Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

Most O365 & exchange users? If you just want file sync, this isn't for you. If you want a collaborative (online) office suite that can also sync files, it is. It's meant to be able to replace the whole O365 stack, which includes Outlook.

You can also just not use that part, or any part you don't need. This is basic NC functionality that has been there for a very long time, so why shouldn't it be part of the package?

Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

"Who ever wanted standard features from office 365 from their office 365 competitor"

you can delete the calendaring and contacts apps