The rapper in punk duo Bob Vylan will not face further action over his "death death to the IDF" chants at Glastonbury Festival, police have said.

Rapper Bobby Vylan, real name is Pascal Robinson-Foster led crowds on the festival's West Holts Stage in the chants about the Israel Defence Forces during the group's performance in June.

Avon and Somerset Police said a criminal investigation was under way shortly afterwards, with a senior detective appointed to lead the investigation.

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[–] 15 points 10 months ago

Fascists look soo stupid with their trumped up charges on words.

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  • 41 comments in c/world@lemmy.world view that post
    [–] 78 points 10 months ago (9 children)
  • [+] -30 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Wow okay folx looks like Hitler survived and posts on Lemmy now. Don't you know Germany killed six TRILLION Jews like 80 years ago?

    sigh this is what happens when we defund public education

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Who said anything about jews? They said idf. A known terroristic organisation. Just because it's under a Jewish state doesn't mean you should automatically associate them with all jews. That's racist/antisemitic/discriminatory/etc. Do you also associate all Muslims with isis? All Americans with ice? That's a messed up way to think. A small group's action doesn't represent everyone related to them. It only represent that group. And the idf is currently committing genocide.

    Also, calling for the death of a group is not the same as the death of the people. The idf should be dismantled and everyone involved and complicit should be prosecuted. So yes, death to the idf.

    Associating the action of the government of Israel to the jewish people is the most antisemitic thing people can do right now. And the fact that government is doing most of that should enrage you the most for flaring up that hate.

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  • [+] -10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Umm yikes wow criticizing israel means criticizing Jews worldwide, Nazi. Didn't Fox News ever tell you that?

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago

    Listen I know it doesn't mean much but for what it's worth I'm sorry the entirety of lemmy is (evidentially) too fucking stupid to feel the searing sarcasm of your comments here today. Consider this a formal apology on behalf of my "contemporaries."

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  • [–] 68 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    What I love is the wording of this. They said the case wasn't moving forwards because of a "lack of evidence". Not that there was no crime committed.

    The whole thing was filmed and broadcast on TV. Exactly what extra evidence was needed to bring this to court?

    Not a crime and should never have been treated as one. Complete waste of time and money.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    They said the case wasn’t moving forwards because of a “lack of evidence”. Not that there was no crime committed.

    Yeah, as you pointed out, the chant was done in a public place. So "lack of evidence" is a prosecutorial euphemism for "we have no case."

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Not familiar with the specific law in question, but for a lot of laws intent and knowledge at the time of crime matter. Eg the difference between manslaughter and murder is a difference in attitude.

    I could plausibly see that in this case there is not enough evidence to determine what the mind set was, while the physical action still undoubtedly took place.

    Eg in Germany showing the Nazi salute or displaying a swastika are illegal, except for artistic or educational purposes. A case could be constructed in which a defendants intent when showing either the gesture or the symbol could not be clearly deduced. This not enough evidence exists wether a crime was committed, even though the physical action that would constitute the crime undoubtedly happened.

    Could be a similar thing is at play here.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago

    Maybe, but I think the intent was quite clear here. Political statement of contempt towards the IDF. There was no sarcasm or irony. It wasn't part of a song. He just led the crowd in a chant.

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    Death to the IDF 🎶

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago*

    Bob Vylan is Punk! Death to the idf

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Why would they prosecute him for a change? WTF is happening with the world.

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    [–] 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Me: Prosecute? Speech? You can't, get fucked.

    Glastonbury

    Oh that sounds bri*ish as hell, makes sense, didn't have a chant starting loicense.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Ex police officer arrested (though not prosecuted, still held for more than a month) because he quoted Trump after Charlie Kirk got involved with a projectile.

    https://www.thefire.org/news/he-spent-37-days-jail-facebook-post-now-fire-has-his-back

    (First link when I googled, know nothing of the site or org)

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    At least in the US, that is illegal to do. Now good luck prosecuting that until a lot of police reform happens because that's a whole issue as well, but that is illegal. Over there he'd be convicted and sentenced on top of being held.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    Good obvious right choice for ounce.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Good to see for Bob.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    There's a thing called freedom of speech, not freedom of warcrimes. Death to the IDF!

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Any reason why this group of people gets so much more protection than others?

    We can criticize just about anyone, but when it comes to Jews it's off-limits.

    I think that's kind of unfair and bullshit. They shouldn't have this power over us.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Because 6 million of them were exterminated in WWII and they have faced centuries of blood libel and hatred.

    Don't confuse hating what Israel is doing with attacking "the Jews". Totally different topic.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    But it's okay to say christianity is a death cult?

    Also, I disagree that Jews are immune to criticism for the reasons you stated. Literally every group of people has faced persecution throughout history, including christians. That doesn't mean we can't criticize them.

    Unfortunately, you're probably going to ban me just because of my previous passage, proving my point.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago*

    Nobody should be immune to criticism. But you should criticise people for their actions, not their being. I hate the Israeli state, not because they're Jewish, but because of their actions in gaza.

    Unfortunately, you're probably going to ban me just because of my previous passage, proving my point.

    Oh stop predicting a not yet existing victim state.

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  • [–] [M] 6 points 10 months ago*

    Every time you use "the Jews" as a pejorative makes you look more and more like a Nazi and brings you one step closer to a ban. This is NOT a Nazi bar:

    Feel free to criticize Zionists and Israeli war crimes all you want, but if you can't (or won't) separate those actions from the Jewish people themselves you can GTFO.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Now will BA pay Louis Theroux for his podcast?

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    [–] 30 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    What were they "investigating" for 6 months? It was a nationally televised event. The decision to press charges or not should have been near instantaneous.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 10 months ago*

    The "investigation" was meant to intimidate and silence opposition to Israel. It was obvious from the start it wouldn't hold up in court.

    The Zionist UK government managed to cancel multiple Bob Vylan gigs by scaring events from hosting Bob Vylan. Dragging it out was on purpose. Also Bob Vylan had to refrain from making the chant for a while when it was very popular fearing prosecution.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    They knew they had nothing, but spent 6 months trying to pin something on it so it wouldn't look like a blatant attack on the first amendment.

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago

    I hate to side with any rapper but my love of free speech overpowers my hate of noisy poetry.

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