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Epstein Files Include 1996 Child Porn Complaint That F.B.I. Ignored (www.nytimes.com)
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Newly released files show how Maria Farmer, who worked for Mr. Epstein in the 1990s, had urged the F.B.I. to investigate him. The case went nowhere for years.

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[–] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No shit Clinton was president and close friends with both Trump and Epstein.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    The FBI had it in for Clinton. They'd have gone after Epstein if they thought it would take Clinton down.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Not when he was president. We already know the president selects who leads and Congress approves it. Also I was a teenager during Clinton's presidency he was well loved. Hell my now Maga loving dad was a full blown Clinton supporter. Credited him for making him rich.

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    [–] 40 points 10 months ago

    And they will still ignore it in 2025.

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    [–] 76 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    The NYT, CNN, Fox News, WaPo, etc criticizing the Epstein files is the equivalent of finding a lone roach in your house.

    It's not just one.

    It's a sign of something much, much worse

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    • [–] 53 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    He said the government until now has denied the existence of the Ms. Farmer’s report, and that it was “shameful” that it was kept secret. “There should be a full fledged investigation into every government employee who knew about this document and allowed a narrative to be publicized that it did not exist,” Mr. Edwards said. An internal investigation of the Department of Justice’s handling of the Epstein case, released in 2020, made no mention of Ms. Farmer’s original complaint.

    Absolutely Bonkers

    “There should be a full fledged investigation into every government employee who knew about this document and allowed a narrative to be publicized that it did not exist,”

    And may I add, "and then hang every damn one of them as traitors."

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    "and then hang every damn one of them as traitors."

    Normally, aid agree 100%, being a Traitor is about the lowest form of scum there is, but there is something worse - a pedophile, and they're all pedophiles.

    So hang them as both Traitors AND Pedophiles, and make THAT their permanent legacies.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Nothing wrong with traitors, our founders were traitors.

    Fuck pedophiles, traitors get judged on a case-by-case basis.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    No, the founding fathers were Patriots, not traitors. A traitor deeply betrays the people around him for his own benefit. Our founding fathers were not traitors, most had never set foot on British soil. They were not British, they were American, part of a British colony, over which they had no control. It is not treason for an oppressed colony to declare their independence.

    On a case by case basis, all MAGAs are Traitors. ALL. It is a basic defining characteristic, just like being a pedophile, or a racist is also a basic MAGA trait.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Okay, allow me to rephrase... the founding fathers, many of whom considered themselves traitors, and were considered traitors by the crown; so they were only traitors by definition and not to Barney

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child)

    I am not aware that they thought of themselves as actual traitors. They did understand that they were viewed as traitors by the Crown, and would be executed as such, but of course the enemy thought they were traitors. Who fucking cares what the enemy thinks?

    Bottom line is that history does not record them as traitors, any more than any oppressed people who rise up and reclaim their country are traitors.

    Humans are under no obligation to remain loyal to a government that abuses and oppresses them. In cases like that, those who abuse the government for their personal benefit, at the expense of the people, are the real traitors.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I am not aware that they thought of themselves as actual traitors.

    Well, they still knew they were traitors. They wrote a lot of letters about it.

    History does record them as traitors, for all to see. You are simply in denial of it. They are real traitors, there are no traitors if they are not to be considered as such. Every traitor has reasons.

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    • [–] 160 points 10 months ago (45 children)

    1996? When Bubba was potus? I wonder why the FBI ignored it

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Nice try

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Not really trying anything. Just that whatever kept the FBI from pursuing Epstein, it was something other than a desire to protect Clinton. They had it in for Clinton and would have gone after this if they thought it would take him down.

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  • [–] [S] 77 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (41 children)

    Funny thing is that no FBI director has been appointed by a Democrat. Not even Clinton had that kind of control of the FBI.

    Edit: looks like I was wrong about appointments; Clinton did appoint an FBI director who had previously been appointed by Bush to another position. He still didn't have the kind of power over the FBI that would have let him quash an investigation like this

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  • [–] 70 points 10 months ago (39 children)

    The 5th Director of the FBI, Louis Freeh, who was director at the time of the complaint, was literally appointed by Bill Clinton. Furthermore, the 3rd director, William Webster, was appointed by Jimmy Carter, and the 7th director, James Comey, was appointed by Barack Obama.

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  • [–] [S] 10 points 10 months ago

    Youre right. He was also previously appointed by Bush. Not exactly a partisan, and the FBI still would gladly have gotten Clinton for this if they'd been aware of his involvement

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  • [+] -30 points 10 months ago (35 children)

    Shh. This is lemmy, where we make excuses for democrats no matter what they do.

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  • [–] 40 points 10 months ago* (19 children)

    This is not reddit and when you make these kinds of insinuations you only ever wind up sounding like a conspiracist or a dolt (perhaps both).

    You'll find a large majority of Lemmy instances are pretty critical of the US Democrattic party and rightly so.

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  • [+] -26 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    You’ll find a large majority of Lemmy instances are pretty critical of the US Democrattic party and rightly so.

    I have not found that to be the case. Say anything less than worshipful of the genocide wing that runs the party and you'll get pushback. Try it for the very first time.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    What the actual fuck are you talking about?

    By which I mean your sweeping, obviously inaccurate claims about the userbase, not the genocide, which is definitely happening, happened under the previous administration too, and is extremely fucked up, and likely contributed to the fascists getting elected given how abysmally the DNC handled the entire situation?

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  • [+] -13 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    You have a lot more issue with my saying that lemmy makes excuses for democrats than you do about the straight up lie that no democrat has ever appointed an FBI chair. Because that lie is there to excuse bad behavior of democrats.

    not the genocide, which is definitely happening, happened under the previous administration too, and is extremely fucked up, and likely contributed to the fascists getting elected given how abysmally the DNC handled the entire situation?

    The prevailing consensus on lemmy is that the democrats did nothing wrong at all and the mean old voters denied them the election.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

    Sounds like you may have been banned from communities that are expressing more nuanced opinions. Perhaps because of your fairly obviously dogmatic stance (not on genocide, but on how people are reacting to it)

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Sounds like you may have been banned from communities that are expressing more nuanced opinions.

    Sounds like you're gloating about pro-genocide echo chambers.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago

    Try it for the very first time.

    This line just proves that you're not interested in a serious conversation. You'll find in life that if you listen before you talk you'll often learn quite a lot of useful things.

    Take care.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    If you really believe this, then you have serious reading comprehension skills and/or only interpret everything in a way the reinforces your existing biases . From my experience, a majority of people here, myself included, would happily see both parties burn to the ground and replaced with a system that empowers We The People to choose real representatives.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    Saying shit like "the Democratic party revolves around genocide" is what gets you push back. Try saying something realistic and people will agree.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (7 children)

    Saying shit like “the Democratic party revolves around genocide” is what gets you push back.

    From people who know it's true, love it, and never want it to change except for the worse. When their actions indicate that they support another policy with greater persistence and enthusiasm, I'll believe the party actually has other policies.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    No, you just have a weird fixation with associating the Democratic Party with genocide by the looks of your last series of comments. I wouldn't be surprised if your entire comment history is peppered with shit-talking on only one side. It doesn't seem to phase commenters like you that the Trump administration is just as friendly with Israel. How come you're silent about that?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (5 children)

    It doesn’t seem to phase commenters like you that the Trump administration is just as friendly with Israel. How come you’re silent about that?

    No one argues with me when I say that trump is pro-genocide, for one. But I'll admit that I'm intensely bitter about democrats' support for genocide. No political party in the US should ever support genocide, and yet even the "good" party does. I'm livid at all the procedural bullshit they applied toward making sure they didn't keep their campaign promises, while breaking actual law to support genocide.

    Just because I fucking hate democrats for what they did, that doesn't mean I don't hate the republicans they keep trying to be for showing them what policies to espouse.

    That said, the insinuation that anyone who has a problem with literal genocide must be a republican is a centrist go-to, and it's the least surprising comment in the whole thread.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    Huh, if only you'd invest that much of your anger towards the administration that's actively trying to engage in genocide right now. Idk if you saw, but that link was from 4 hours ago. Where's the outrage? Or is it that much more important to get your fix by picking a fight on Lemmy about an administration that's not even in power right now?

    the insinuation that anyone who has a problem with literal genocide must be a republican is a centrist go-to.

    The insinuation that anyone who complains about you endlessly complaining about genocide must be a centrist is also quite something.

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Huh, if only you’d invest that much of your anger towards the administration that’s actively trying to engage in genocide right now.

    Huh, if only you could admit that genocide was wrong, you wouldn't have to keep making allegations that anyone who doesn't love it like you do must be a trumper.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    I would have made some kind of sarcastic joking "welcome to lemmy" comment, but your profile says it was created two and a half years ago in the era of the great third party app reddit exodus.

    The biggest Democrat "support" I generally see here, and which I have contributed to myself, is the suggestion that it may be a good idea to vote for a severely flawed Democrat in order to avoid everything we're seeing right now and have waiting for us in the next 3+ years.

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago* (8 children)

    The biggest Democrat “support” I generally see here, and which I have contributed to myself, is the suggestion that it may be a good idea to vote for a severely flawed Democrat in order to avoid everything we’re seeing right now and have waiting for us in the next 3+ years.

    Three comments up is someone lying and saying no democrat has ever appointed an FBI chair because a Clinton appointee was head of the agency when the allegations were ignored. It's heavily upvoted.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    They're misremembering. What they're trying to remember is the fact that no Democrat has ever been appointed to run the FBI. Democratic presidents appoint Republicans to run the FBI.

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  • [+] -8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    You're making excuses for excuses.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    This is not the gotcha you think it is.

    First, the comment you chose is replying to another comment you don't choose that DID blame it on Clinton and got far more upvotes. And if you care so much about votes then this post of yours seems to have been rejected by the collective so far.

    But more importantly, I responded to your broad generalized statement with one of my own. I don't know why you think a single counter example (even a good one and not just somebody being wrong) is going to shatter my statement as if it's a scientific theory.

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    First, the comment you chose is replying to another comment you don’t choose that DID blame it on Clinton and got far more upvotes.

    The one blaming it on clinton wasn't telling an obvious lie. Since this is lemmy, the lie was welcome because it absolved the centrist wing of the party.

    I don’t know why you think a single counter example (even a good one and not just somebody being wrong) is going to shatter my statement as if it’s a scientific theory.

    Do you really want me to list all the times people on lemmy have lied and made excuses for the centrist wing of the democratic party? Will you immediately dismiss them and make excuses for them like your "being wrong" garbage?

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

    You getting downvoted for this is just proof they hate you calling it out. If they weren't offended by the truth they'd stop downvoting you.

    Edit: and it still happens when directly called on it too, no irony or shame from them

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    • [–] 16 points 10 months ago

    So when will they actually release it?

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    [–] 47 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (35 children)

    I'm losing my mind. Keep getting banned on reddit because the ban bot's list of unacceptable words keeps growing at an exponential rate.

    Now my comments are dissappearing when I submit them on Lemmy too

    I'm just screaming into the void

    Edit: I now have proof that humans are not reading appeals. I told them off using the most vulgar language I could muster in my appeal

    An hour ago my appeal was approved

    I feel like Morgan Freeman's character "Red" at the end of Shawshank

    I don't really give a shit

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  • [–] 98 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (27 children)

    Shit piss motherfucker cunt fart tits turd twat cum smegma pussy cock dick pedophile bill Clinton George bush Donald Trump Barack Obama Israel Netanyahu fuck orgy rape kill purple monkey dishwasher fuckstick dipshit fisting gape anal felching Orgy.

    EDIT: yeah you're totally getting censored because you're using inappropriate words. You can't use any inappropriate words on lemmy, that's why it's such a bucket of boiling hot ape shum, what in the corpse-fucking shit is even fucking wrong with this hymen-gnawing world? We can't even fucking cuss!

    I've fucked barn cats with more tact and self awareness than this arbitrary word-based filter, WHERE THE FUCK IS MY SHITEATING FREEDOM?

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    You can't just say 'dishwasher'!

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    You had me at "fisting"

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago (8 children)

    I mean, that's why we keep you around

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    Sorry to detract from this otherwise erudite exchange between intellectuals, but would it be better if fisto's fist was bigger, or smaller than a normal hand?

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Don't be so fucking sensitive, fisto

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I'm fucking dying

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    That goes beyond the 7 words you can’t say on tv.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago* (3 children)

    I can say whatever the fuck I want on fuckjng tv. If any motherfucker is pigfuckingly stupid enough to put my fucking idiotic ass onto fucking television then they can deal with the headfuckingly challenging god damned tessaract of shit that's going to come out of my fucking mouth and they can spend an eternity drowning in that four dimensional fucktangle of sewage for all I fucking care.

    Also this fuckjng censorship is out of fucking control, I am tired of sitting behind this Great Wall of fucking feces trying to get my important message out into the fucking world, why in the infant Christ fucking hell are we putting up with this egregious non consensual removal of our fucking balls?

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  • [–] -1 points 10 months ago* (1 child)

    Stuff urine motherforker c*** fort tights turf twad come sm*gma pussycat chicken chicken pdfile bill Clinton George bush Donald Trump Barack Obama Israel Netanyahu fork ogre grape unalive purple monkey dishwasher forkstick dipshirt punching great analogy felching ogre. you mean?

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    • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Let me guess, Clinton was President of the US? Also, when Epstein died in prison Trump was President? Nah, that is just a coincidence.

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