rsyslog Goes AI First — A New Chapter Begins : linux@programming.dev

Using AI to improve documentation (which is neglected often time anyway) or as a specifically trained LLM for support is exactly how you should use it.

The rest sounds rational too, so I wouldn't write rsyslog down just because of that.

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[–] kbal@fedia.io 7 points 11 months ago*

If it was something like "our policy is to use AI where it's useful, so we've used it to reformat all the documentation" that wouldn't worry me. Going "AI first" for "faster innovation" to "unlock the next stage of rsyslog's evolution" is just not what I'm looking for in a logging daemon.

At least for my home network I'm going to just go with plain old GNU syslogd.

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[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

lol the explanation in the link almost sounds like "stupid PR forced us to use a hyped up title for the news but here is what we actually meant"

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[–] DempstersBox@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago

man we are all gonna end up in Gain Ground

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[–] algernon@lemmy.ml 10 points 11 months ago

A new chapter, for sure. A very sad chapter, unfortunately.

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[–] m33@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago

Journalctl looks interesting for the first time in 10 years

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[–] erebion@news.erebion.eu 2 points 11 months ago

Is this satire? Just wondering, because it sounds so stupid.

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[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

I was gonna post a list of other things that happened on July 9 2025, but it was all kinda depressing.

The post ended with "stay tuned". Do you have any update for us, OP?

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[–] brianpeiris@lemmy.ca [S] 5 points 11 months ago

They posted a series of other AI-related blogs in July, August, and October:

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[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago

Which of these commits https://github.com/rsyslog/rsyslog/commits/ as actually made with "AI" support and how?

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[+] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I, like the other commenters here, am not privy to the 2 years of evaluation and experimentation.

However, I won't let that stop me from condemning this in no uncertain terms because AI bad and that's more correct than any amount of "observational data" or "experimental evidence".

We may not be users of the software, contributors to the project or were even aware of what rsyslog is prior to seeing this announcement but as people who are chronically outraged we have valid concerns about this development which will ruin the software that we only recently discovered existed.

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[–] SystemQ@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Rsyslog comes standard on most if not all Linux distros, I'm willing to bet most people here have at least heard of it, or use/have used it in the past, especially if you're a sysadmin. You pretending it's some obscure software we're all only just now hearing about, tells us you have no idea what you're talking about.

Think before you speak.

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[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

So, after sifting through all the other breathless articles from their website it seems that they're going to :

Use a LLM to attempt to sort out their documentation.
Have a chatbot trained on the docs so you can ask it questions and possibly get coherent answers.
Some sort of vague thing where the LLM provides guidance and suggestions on improvements to the codebase.

Lots of reassurance that they're not going to let it do vibe coding but to be honest, they doth protest a little too much methinks.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

So you read a bunch of articles detailing exactly how they plan on using AI and they have specifically said that they're not using it for vibe coding.

And your conclusion after reading all of this is that they're going to be using it for vibe coding.

It seems like you're doing some vibe reading

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[–] dgriffith@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago

If you read the phrasing carefully it's quite clear that it will be doing things to the codebase, just "with oversight".

How much oversight? Not sure, just some assurances that there will be oversight.

Vibe coding is essentially just a different phrase for that.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

Rsyslog comes standard on most linux distros, yes. It didn't get that way because the development team are idiots who don't know what they're doing.

So, on one hand we have the developers of a piece of software used by a majority of Linux users saying that, after 2 years of evaluation and testing, that these tools are useful and effective and on the other hand we have random social media people who's only knowledge on the topic is that they know AI is bad and therefore this cannot be anything but bad.

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