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[–] 92 points 11 months ago (12 children)

The dumb part is that the world has gotten to the point of allowing Nazism into our collective conversation again.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago*

    Had a conversation with a coworker about why I won't ever consider buying a Tesla, and first they denied Musk being a nazi, and then tried to play it off as "why does it even matter if he's a nazi? It's not like he's hurting anyone, only jews need to be afraid of nazis". Lost every single ounce of respect for that corworker today. Nazis don't deserve to live, they absolutely fucking don't deserve my money, and playing it off as: "at least his idealogi isn't trying to murder YOU specfically", is just fucking insane.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    It never went away. Even in Germany, everyone blamed 10 guys and got off Scott free. For decades, Nazis would meet around Himmler's daughter and they showed no remorse until they died.

    The only difference now is people are saying things out loud.

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  • [+] -64 points 11 months ago* (9 children)

    If ICE isnt nazism, I dont know what is. We dont need Musk for that....

    Musk is just someone very socially awkward. Like a nerd that is missing some emotional parts most of us have. They had to train him a lot to be on game shows at first. He had to learn how to act in a way people find relatable. So his little nazi salute, I just see it as something immature he thought was fun. His brain is different to say the least.

    He can be interesting to listen to. I thought the Joe Rogan interviews were nice.

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago*

    Hard disagree. There is no way to reasonably look at him doing that Nazi salute and come away with any benefit of the doubt. He does it without ambiguity, 2 times in between talking daily about fascist ideas.

    This behavior requires the mens rea of a fascist. He is a fascist. It's quite rare that things are this clear, but the more you look at the context, the less ambiguity there is.

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago

    No. He's a self absorbed con-man.

    His "little" salute?! You're fucking joking, right?? Nothing little about three full salutes at the President's inauguration no less.

    Finally, just some immature thing? You know what, why don't you just grow a pair and admit where you're allegiance truly lies. Cause if you tolerate Nazism, you're part of the problem. Only you don't seem to mind that at all. Do you?

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Nazis exploit the myth of the edgelord. Sure, some ironic nazis exist. However, most are using the language of irony to spread their nazi ideology.

    Yes, some tankies like to call liberals "nazis", some conspiracy theorists thought nazis are everywhere and are controlling the world from the moon after they secretly won World War II with all the secret superweapons, and even conservatives are sometimes get in the fun of overusing of the term. However, nazis want you to believe that only a few very obvious skinheads are nazis, the rest are just "common sense, moderate, christian conservatives, who need some drastic measures to protect us from communism, immigration, transgender ideology, and the cynicism of state atheism".

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  • [+] -7 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Those "immigration agents" called ICE in America are Nazis for sure. They do exactly what Hitlers gang did. Get rid of the undesirables.

    The thing is, I look at peoples actions. Someone famous doing a Nazi salute, ok, whatever. Doesnt concern me. But what ICE is doing right now, that is extremely concerning.

    You guys should be raging about that. That is actual evil.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago*

    Your glossing over that he paid $250m into Trump's election and actively campaigned for him. He set up a illegal lottery to get people to vote for Trump.

    He was then an active part of the Trump government for months. He ran DOGE, running a wrecking ball through multiple government departments and likely loosing/stealing private US citizens data in the process.

    He helped end USAID which will lead to thousands of children dying. But sure he's nothing to be concerned about. Just has the mind of a child.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    So his little nazi salute, I just see it as something immature he thought was fun. His brain is different to say the least.

    Yeah, his brain is different, it's a Nazi brain.

    Don't pretend this is some immature fun thought, he showed no remorse for what he did (multiple times), this was not a mistake or a lapse in judgement, this was him forgetting to 'hide his power level's and showing his true colors.

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  • [–] 58 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    You have an actual photo of him doing the hitler salute though.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Man... I can't beleive how many people tried to gaslight everyone into thinking he was just "sending his heart out"

    Somehow he got off easy lighter than he should have for such a blatant nazi salute

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    The MAGA types immediately posted pictures of dEMoCrAt nAzIs

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    You can take any person who's had sufficient coverage and find an unfortunately timed picture of them waving that kinda looks like a Nazi salute. That's not what happened with Elon, though. The people falsely equivocating those pictures with Elon's enthused Nazi salute know it, too.

    Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

    • Jean-Paul Sartre
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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    That's what his corpse would look like if Vecna from stranger things killed him

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why does he have a tit hole? Is he pregnant?

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    guillotines

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    [–] 2 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    Wtf this is like season 4 Vecna shit.

    Please no S5 spoilers I haven't finished the first batch yet.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    In season 5 the cast supports genocide in Palestine.

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