Nearly half of Europeans see Donald Trump as “an enemy of Europe”, rather more rate the risk of war with Russia as high and more than two-thirds believe their country would not be able to defend itself in the event of such a war, a survey has found.

The nine-country poll for the Paris-based European affairs debate platform Le Grand Continent also found that nearly three-quarters of respondents wanted their country to stay in the EU, with almost as many saying leaving the union had harmed the UK.

Jean-Yves Dormagen, a political science professor and founder of the polling agency Cluster17, said: “Europe is not only facing growing risks, it is also undergoing a transformation of its historical, geopolitical and political environment. The overall picture [of the survey] portrays a Europe that is anxious, that is deeply aware of its vulnerabilities and that is struggling to project itself positively into the future.”

The polling found that an average of 48% of people across the nine countries see Trump as an outright foe – ranging from highs of 62% in Belgium and 57% in France to lows of 37% in Croatia and 19% in Poland.

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[–] 95 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Thats not good. Thats way to low

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Did Poland really not learn its lesson in WW2? Why are they still gravitating heavily (vs other countries) towards fascist leaders? Is there a culture thing going on that I never learned? Is there some socio-economic reason that smarter polish people are leaving Poland or dumber people are going to Poland or maybe not able to leave to better conditions?

    This needs studying if we don’t have answers.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    It's insane, but it should be expected. Fascists have been using social media, traditional media, and surveillance capitalism — big data and analytics — to wage psychological warfare for decades. Most of the major players are American corporations, and all of the world's elite/oligarchs are all invested in them; they're all just as anti-democratic, pro-authoritarianism, mentally ill, criminally corrupt, and depraved as each other.

    This is the expected result when fascist state media like News Corp are allowed to exist; spewing disinformation 24/7. When a class of ultra-wealthy are allowed to exist, and the multi-tiered "democratic" and "justice" systems they create. When criminals are allowed to operate behind the liability shield of an LLC.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    The whole world is fascist now. The US spread it to every corner of the globe.

    Even the countries that are considered progressive still have huge ever growing wealth gaps with the majority of their policies determined by the wealthy's favorite proxy corporate influence.

    Instead of protecting our citizens, like you alluded to, they commit to continuous psychological warfare. The President of the US is essentially an abusive partner you can't leave.

    The only silver lining is billions more people now have access to fresh water, food, and electricity. Their lives have been improved dramatically in the last twenty years.

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  • [–] 54 points 11 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    He's an enemy to humanity. But of particular menace to US and EU.

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    As a Canadian I feel particularly vulnerable to his rhetoric and bullshit. America has a shit ton of crazies that would just love to invade this country and kill everything that moves.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    A menace to all liberal, democratic societies that value human rights and believe in real market competition that brings down prices and forces companies to focus on the needs of their customers and workforce (so not fake American-style competition rhetoric).

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago

    What's wrong with the other half?

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    only half? Oh yeah, Fascism still a thing in Europe.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Which country is fascist run in Europe? Or what do you mean?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    True. I forgot.

    Still the comment makes it sound like it's all over Europe.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It is all over Europe with maybe some exceptions.

    These parties are getting big enough to be in the government if the democratic ones do not stay away from them.

    Centrist parties are flirting with the fascists topics hoping to gain a few percentage points but what actually happens is they legitimize them and the fascists gain these points

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    There are definitely worrying trends even in those countries where fascists are not in majority (yet). It's not looking good. We can't have a repeat of what happened almost a hundred years ago. Nobody among the people wants that.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago

    True, and I see him as an enemy of America too.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I am amazed that someone think (pardon, believe because ...) that Trump is friend to anybody.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    So half of Europeans have been paying attention.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I was about to say: half? Is the other half stupid? I thought everyone in Europe had internet. Are Americans confusing Europe for Afrika again?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Uh we have our own far-right problem plus many people just don't care about foreign politics.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    There's a difference between dealing with a far right problem, and pedophile convict scam artists trying to make Idiocracy a reality as fast as possible while at the same time doing a Hitler's playbook.

    The US isn't just foreign politics, everything that happens there has influence over here.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Lol our far right praises everything Trumpler does. And there are also pedo suspicions about some members of the family running the far-right party in my country.

    They haven't been able to get enough power to go full Hitler, but all they really need is a few good crises. They want to get rid of all LGBT and POC too. Funnily enough they don't want to ruin the welfare state though, unlike the liberals.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Almost the same amount for Americans lol

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Indeed, time to build a formal EU Armed Forces and tell the AmeriKans to GTFO of Ramstein and NATO.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    So like the same 50% opposition as in the US. This kind of seems like we're all living under the same propaganda and international political machines.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    So half of Europeans are fucking idiots?

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    [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    This survey asked only half the Europeans? [sarcasm / hoping for 100%]

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, it's not like he keeps it a secret.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago

    We also believe he's the enemy of all people, surely. Not just us, but his own people as well.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Even if we ignore 90% of the things he has said about Europe I still think we have enough to come to that conclusion just on words alone.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    Welcome to the club

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    He's the enemy of everywhere except Russia.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I would put it different: he is an enemy of humanity as such.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    see trump as enemy of Europe the entire world

    FTFY

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    half of Americans do too!

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Only half? For what I can see most countries here in Europe see the United States and Trump a bigger danger than China. One thing we know for certain, that the United States is not a democracy and can’t be treated as one.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    62% in Belgium, kind of surprising as the minister of Defense, a Trump admirer himself, is quite popular in the north.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago*

    I believe it's the same thing in France. People despise and mock the US administration yet love the local versions of Trump. Their minds are taken on by a oligarch media frenzy mixed with massive russian/Chinese social network attacks against western values replacing them with hate towards our own people but different from the historic skin color/religion and a focus on exaggerating the perception of corruption among those we have freely elected.

    They lack clarity to the point I hope solar flares soon knock out the internet for a few weeks before elections. The short and long term damage from said solar flares would probably be way lower than what we might otherwise see happen! I can't believe I'm saying this seriously, yet I see it.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Because he basically says so but every opportunity?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Nine European countries*

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I read that headline as "half the Europeans are stupid" that seems about right in my experience too

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Half of Trump sees Europe as the enemy of Trump.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Half of USA, too.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Half the United States believe that too.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    As an Australian id hate to see what % it is for Australians, 10% ?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Where are the stats for the non-EU European states?

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