The wing doesn't matter if the eagle is a nazi tbf.

All I want is the freedom to vote how I want and still count my vote if my first choice didn't win. Democrats should be free to run their political party how they want. Just like how everyone else should be free to participate in our elections. Free of a spoiler effect.

There should be no monopoly on the future of our nation. Republican, or Democrat.

Surely the freedom to vote how people want is not to high a bar for the democrats to clear right? Self proclaimed democracy advocates surely want the people to be represented fully... right?

I would never force a liberal to vote for my preference in a election, why is it okay for them to do that to me?

And it is a conscious decision to force me to vote a certain way. Every election democrats mercilessly rage at 3rd party voters. The Democratic party and their voters understand that First-past-the-post voting is flawed. Yet in blue states, fully in control of the Democratic party, FPTP voting shackles the people.

Democrats understand FPTP voting does a bad job of representing the nation. They ignore this festering gaping mortal wound... all for safe states and easy elections against a complete clown show. One that has defeated them in every way possible.

The monopoly is over democrats. You never deserved it, and you most certainly do not deserve it now in our darkest hours. Get out of the way, we have to move forward as a nation.

The Democratic party is not more important then the United States of America.

Nothing new, in a profoundly capitalist structure like the US, there are no other options than to choose between conservatism and fascism, substituting reason for "in God we trust" and "Stars and Stripes", to keep citizens ignorant and obedient to continue functioning.

You could’ve made this image using paint in under 5 minutes, did you really need to waste half a liter of water to have AI generate it?

Their strategy is to give into Trump's demands in the hopes that it prevents him from destroying their precious institutions. They hope to be able to take over from an unpopular Republican party after Trump dies without really undoing the damage he's done. The problem with this approach is that it will prevent the system from needing to be properly rebuilt, effectively legalizing most of his abuses of power and prolonging the instability of our country. A big part of this will be institutionalizing the blatant corruption and oligarchy while further rigging elections to make it impossible for popular movements to ever legally gain power.

A Gavin Newsom or Pete Buttigieg presidency will see them ruling as a weaker feudal king than Trump, but only to promote business activity and interests. Relying on the honeymoon period following Trump's removal, they will position themselves as the saviors of "democracy," yet they will do little to actually undo a lot of the election rigging that Republicans are installing right now. They will suppress workers rights and throw the most disposable minorities under the bus, deregulating and burning through all the goodwill they have. They'll parade the corpse of liberalism around as long as fools will believe it, but it will be a cynical gesture.

In order for actual liberal democracy to exist again in this country, the liberals would need to have shown a backbone and resist Trump no matter how much he destroys institutions. They would need to risk temporary jail time and potential assassination to invigorate long term support for a rebuilt American dream. Instead they're showing that they never cared about liberal ideals, only the goodwill liberalism afforded their power.

The following can all be true:

• The Democrats are a right wing neoliberal party.
• The Democrats are the most left-wing option that is realistically available to American voters.
• The Democrats can be pushed further left if American progressives work to do so.
• The Democrats - at the party level - will resist such a change, but that resistance can still be overcome.
• In the long term, massive structural overhauls and the downfall of capitalism are the only things that will save America and the world
• In the near term, voting consistly and enthusiastically for the least bad option can still protect vulnerable groups from harm and create changes that lay the groundwork for those structural overhauls.

I agree, but I also wonder if the Democratic party can be converted from the inside to change it's focus.

Probably not. I just winder what the best way forward is. It's not really clear.

Always remember that left and right are difficult terms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum

In Germany Harris would have been conservative CDU (the most conservative/right party before the AfD turned up) and Trump would have been in the AfD. However, CDU is still fine. Nothing bad about being conservative. I disagree with most of their opinions but they are valid political opinions. AfD and Trump share political opinions that are undemocratic, dangerous and stupid.

Election time already?

Liberalism has always been right from center. You can put neo in front of it all you'd like.

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Never forget that the right-left spectrum is a myth

🙄 yeah the Dems are totally the problem.

And ML are abusive authoritarians who shift economic ideology to whatever they think will help them amass power and control. Water wet, sky blue, these and other controversial facts coming to you at 11 o'clock.

What's to the right of the right?

Lazy take.

You know Liberals will only read "Always remember that the democrats are right" and ignore the rest

You are loosing it