Plex has confirmed that it will require a Remote Watch Pass or Plex Pass for remote streaming on its TV apps. The change is going into effect for the Roku app first, followed by all other TV apps and third-party clients in 2026.

Earlier this year, Plex increased its pricing for Plex Pass and stopped supporting all options for free remote streaming in the Plex apps, such as adding a custom server connection in the app settings. The company said at the time, "The reality is that we need more resources to continue putting forth the best personal media experience, and as a result, we will no longer offer remote playback as a free feature." That's also when Plex introduced the Remote Watch Pass as a less expensive way to enable remote streaming again.

Plex is now rolling out the remote watch changes to its Roku TV app. If you have Plex Pass, or the owner of the server you're streaming from has Plex Pass, you don't need to do anything. Otherwise, if you are streaming on a different network from the server's home network, you need Plex Pass or Remote Watch Pass.

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[–] 94 points 11 months ago (34 children)

Oh fuck off, dipshits. You chose this route despite the community that built you.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago (32 children)

    If Plex was 100% paid there a would be zero complaints.

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  • [–] 48 points 11 months ago (29 children)

    I don't think that's it.

    There were complaints when Netflix started enforcing password sharing rules.

    I think the main driver of complaints is "you promised the thing I'm paying for would be X, and now you're changing the deal."

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (24 children)

    There was never an explicit deal on providing free shit. Although they seem to be honoring paid stuff. If your account is old enough, content shared with friends can be downloaded even if they don't have a Plex pass.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago* (23 children)

    Not for users who paid the mobile unlock fee.

    What if I’ve already paid the one-time mobile app activation fee?
    For users who have already paid a one-time, in-app activation for either our mobile Android or iOS app, an extended trial for the new Remote Watch Pass subscription is available.
    (Source: Plex)

    They soften the landing with the "extended trial", but anyone who paid the "one-time fee" is finding out what that really meant.

    I wouldn't be surprised if a year from now there's an announcement for Plex 2.0 and my lifetime account only applies to legacy Plex.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Apparently this extended trial is 3 months. I would have thought that it was just the terminology they needed to use to get it to work with the mobile platforms. This is a really shitty thing to do.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (19 children)
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    Previously you could pay a one time fee to watch remotely on Android and iOS without having the Plex Pass and now it sounds like they're rolling this into the Plex Pass and asking users to pay again.

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  • [–] -5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Is there a difference between the two?

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    You might not understand :

    • their explanation for what happens to users who've paid
    • what I mean by "soften the landing"
    • what I mean by "what that really meant"
    • what I mean by "I wouldn't be surprised"

    I'm not a mind reader, mate. Even less so on the internet. I could be ESL, or from a different part of the world. Whatever's obvious in your head isn't going to be obvious in mine.

    So, if you want me to tell you what "this" means, you've got to tell me what "this" is.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    That the one-time fee was a lie.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (11 children)
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (10 children)

    How would you define "one-time fee" in this context?

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    I am asking about the lie part. I know what a "one time fee" means. I know nothing else.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (8 children)

    I'm not sure you do know what it means though. Because if you did, then it would be obvious how requiring another fee for the thing you already paid the one-time fee for makes the original promise of the one-time fee a lie.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    it would be obvious how requiring another fee for the thing you already paid the one-time fee

    I did not know this. I just said that I didn't know this.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    You responded to a comment detailing it and linking you directly to the source...

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Oh my god fuck you. I do not understand what those words mean. I have explicitly said I do not know what this means. Please just tell me.

    1. What was paid for in this supposed one time fee
    2. What was changed/taken away.
    3. What this extended trial does.

    The page does not explain what these things are. It just says that one was taken away in favor of the other. I am explicitly asking you this because search engines are near useless now and you have the experience and nuance to tech me this.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (4 children)

    1. What was paid for in this supposed one time fee

    From the link:

    What are the features and limitations without unlocking the app?

    Free Functionality

    The following functionality is available without unlocking the Plex for Android app:

    The following functionality is available without unlocking the Plex for Android app:

    • Unlimited casting/flinging of photos and videos from the Camera Roll on your phone or tablet to other Plex apps that support Plex Companion
    • Unlimited casting/flinging of any media on your Plex Media Server to other Plex apps that support Plex Companion
    • Remote control your big screen Plex apps that support Plex Companion
    • “Movies & Shows” video on demand content from Plex
    • free Live TV channels from Plex
    • Browse libraries from your own or shared Plex Media Servers
      LIMITATIONS: When playing or viewing media from your Plex Media Server on the device:
      • Video is limited to one minute of playback
      • Music is limited to one minute of playback
      • Photos will have a watermark added
      • There are multiple ways to unlock/activate the app to remove the playback limitations when streaming from a Plex Media Server.

    Unlocked Functionality

    Unlocking the app will remove the playback limitations when streaming from a Plex Media Server.

    Unlocking or Activating Plex for Android

    The Plex for Android app is available to download for free from the Google Play or Amazon app stores. While many features of the app are available to use for free and users can test out all of the features, there are playback limitations when streaming from a Plex Media Server unless the app is unlocked.

    One-Time Purchase in the App

    Users who don’t have a Plex Pass subscription—and aren’t interested in starting one—can unlock Plex for Android through a simple one-time purchase.

    The purchase is tied to your app store account. You can download and use on any Android device with the app store you originally purchased it from with the app store account you purchased it with. The purchase is linked to the app store account that made the purchase and doesn’t extend to other app store accounts or profiles.

    For instance, if you purchase the app through Google Play, then the purchase will apply to any Android device using the same Google Play account. The purchase does not extend to a different Google Play account, nor does it extend to other app stores, such as Amazon or iTunes.

    2. What was changed/taken away.

    From the link:

    Can I access my Plex library outside of my home network?

    Yes, that's possible! First, you'll need to set up Remote Access on the Plex Media Server to facilitate remote connections. You then need either an active Plex Pass subscription on your server admin account (allowing any user accessing the server to stream remotely) or a Remote Watch Pass (letting you stream remotely from any server to which you have access).

    3. What this extended trial does.

    From the link:
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    Had to bust out the dictionary for this one:

    Extended (adjective)

    Continued or prolonged.
    extended efforts

    Trial

    A tentative or experimental action in order to ascertain results; experiment.

    The page does not explain what these things are.

    Which is why it's crazy that I just followed the link you were given and copied/pasted this information in. Must be magic.

    All of that to say, fuck you right back for your obtuse little replies. Try actually reading what you're linked to and asking intelligent questions next time, instead of "Huh? What? I don't know those words..."

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Okay I think I get it now. How long is the extended trial?

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It would have been extremely easy for you to say "they took away a supposed one time purchase for a 3 month trial of a monthly subscription" instead of being an asshole. I'm done with this interaction. I agree that this is a shitty thing to do. Thank you for telling me.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    The issue, as always, is that Plex started to put free existing features behind a paywall to squeeze more money out of their client base instead of adding something and charging for it.

    VC money came in and now the VC wants to cash in on the investment.

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  • [–] 86 points 11 months ago (29 children)

    Switched to Jellyfin after more than a decade with Plex. Prettey.. prettey.. pretty good.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    That's how it works with Tailscale as well. Tailscale creates Wireguard tunnels underneath between the different devices. There's also an open-source self-hostable Tailscale control plane.

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    Love me some Jellyfin. I was yesterday days old when I finally read some documentation and learned that my metadata issues were because I was using a mixed library type for kids shoes and movies, and that they strongly discourage it because of the unreliable metadata it causes. Split kids movies and shows apart and now that works flawlessly, still, I feel like I’d prefer they could be combined on a single library for a kids’ browsing

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Why do you have a library of kiss's shoes?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Do you remote stream (off your server network)? If so, how's the experience?

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Do you reverse proxy, Tailscale, etc to authenticate or circumvent the need for a secure connection? Every time I come close to planning a switch, that part paralyzes me, it feels so unintuitive.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    I do use both a reverse proxy and Tailscale. All services are proxied. All services except for Jellyfin are accessed only via Tailscale. Jellyfin is publicly available. I've obscured it a bit by setting up long, randomly generated DNS name. The proxy would only forward traffic to Jellyfin if the request comes from that exact DNS name. Bots would have to know this name for the proxy to entertain their attempts at all. Then every user has long, randomly-generated password. I prefer to only use it behind Tailscale but some of my family needs direct access. Also Chromecast.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Do you give friends and family access to your library? If so, how?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    There's a few ways, but it's similar to hosting anything yourself. You could, if you're not too bothered by it, just forward the port that jellyfin is using. You do this in your routers settings and you can see/change the port in jellyfins settings. Then you give your friends the device that's hosting jellyfin's ip address and they type it in when logging into the app. That's simple and quick and not secure at all. But it's really one of those things that 99 times out of 100 it's fine.

    You can use something like tailscale to connect your friends devices to your network, I didn't do it so I don't really know the details, but you'd need it installed on all of their clients. This is (probably) the most secure way but it's a pain in the butt for users, compared to other ways. https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/post-install/networking/tailscale/

    I ended up using nginx as a reverse proxy, and bought a domain name so I could just tell people "go into jellyfin wherever you want and type in domain.com, then pick the profile I made you." I was really new to this nginx thing when I did it, so I don't have a deep understanding of why it's better than just forwarding the port but it is.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yup. Shame the new version is unusable for me. Hopefully they fix the bugs.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    What do you mean?

    To me the problem would be modifying the lifetime pass or simply removing it (for new customers) in favor of a fucking subscription only.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I would be very surprised if they don't go there eventually, and I'd even bet they'll try at some point to force lifetime pass owners to switch to subscription

    If you ever think you've found a corpo that can be trusted, no you haven't

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  • [–] 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Abandoning streaming services only to become a serf of another commercial subscription service seems like such a bizarre move that I really don't understand how Plex users even exist.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    I have a lifetime pass and switched to Jellyfin years ago. Plex shoving their streaming content down my throat while putting my local libraries in the most tedious spots to access in the menus was a very quick turn off.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I have a lifetime pass and stopped using it. I got my money's worth over the years. No regrets.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Same. I finally switched over to jellyfin recently as it was low down on a long list of stuff I want to do, let alone need to do. I feel like I got my worth and if things mess up with jellyfin, I've got a temporary backup option to spin up without having to give a single penny more. Fingers crossed, no more of my data either seeing as it's all uninstalled.

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  • [–] 45 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    This makes me glad I went with Jellyfin for my home server

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Me too buddy, me too. Not gonna lie it took quite a lot of effort to get everything setup and stuff but reading news like this now gives me a cozy warm feeling

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I’m curious on what more setup you’ve done? Mine has been pretty easy, but I haven’t done too much other than just watch stuff

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I didn't get remote control to work how I wanted, I can do it only using a VPN on my home network which is fine. Other than that I had some issues getting it to recognise all my shows and download the metadata. But I like the customization and potential to add extra add ons and stuff

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    I have the sevre side stuff all set up as far as I know but I've not been able to get the Roku app to connect. I should note the tv is literally on the other side of the wall from my computer, they're on the same network.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Fuuuuuck plex

    For the past like 5-7 years I’ve said consistently that the second plex took VC money the writing was on the wall and that they would eventually and consistently take actions hostile towards their consumers and doing what they can to both move to SaaS and alienate lifetime pass users as well as distance themselves from their core purpose of sharing collections of pirated media hidden behind the thinly veneered “for tobacco use only” bullshit of “actually you can just rip your own physical media”

    Every time I post, whether it’s banning the ability to serve on hetzner, putting ads all over the app and starting to collect data, increasing monetization, etc and talk about how it’s inherently going to continue getting worse plex users inevitably come out of the woodwork to be like “well this is overblown, plex is so good it’s worth getting fucked, jellyfin is slightly harder since it’s not backed by 40 million dollars of devil money that demands endless growth until the product is ruined”

    As long as those people who are willing to get walked all over exist, that demand a slightly easier existence over one that serves them, every product and service will continue to get worse and worse while a small group of people get fat off of endless subscriptions

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Reposting something from r/Plex because the mods are bitch-babies with minimal changes:

    If you pay money for something, you do not own it. It is not entirely yours.

    You pay, that shit's proprietary, you didnt make it, you can't see the insides. Why would any self respecting sociopath give you something without including a backdoor, data logging/tracking, and a string to pull it back?

    You steal something, or download more anonymously, it isn't immediately connected to you, it may not have the backdoors activated, and you probably cut that string when you acquired it. You might even have to fuck around in the guts and modify shit so it can't be remotely bricked tracked etc.

    Applies to physical goods up to and including housing too. The state wants me out, I'm out. Can happen for a lot of reasons, and no amount of obedience or investment keeps you 100% safe. In a squat, ive already defended myself, proven their power, at least what they're willing to exercise, cannot dislodge me. The place is truly mine.

    You buy from the company store, you don't own shit.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago

    Bye, bye Plex!

    What a shocking chapter of "Plex and the Quest for Investiblity!"

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  • [–] 32 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Switched my users to Jellyfin this spring when Plex first announced this move, pretty seamless transition.

    I actually prefer Jellyfin and it's UI compared to the new one Plex rolled out on Roku, what a mess that is to navigate now.

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    You probably could do it with trakt.
    The plugin supports syncing watched history.

    But you'd need to do it for every user individually.
    (Not tested. But at the time had issues with weird watch status in my jellyfin and trakt seemed to be the reason)

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