Seems like it.
Reminds me of the Cloudflare incident this year.
And the Cloudflare incident also this year.
Seems like it.
Reminds me of the Cloudflare incident this year.
And the Cloudflare incident also this year.
The world's richest man can't even keep his own website up and accessible. But the guys hosting the fedi in their garage are just fine. Lol
tbf, the scales are slightly different
It reminds me more of the AWS outage last month.
It's probably not half of the Internet, but the fact that it's so many very visible sites should be a warning sign to everyone that the Internet is nowadays too reliant on a few points of failure (which can cause other problems, e.g. censorship).
Cloudflare is in an interesting space. They are a service provider (ddos protection, scalable edge caching, SSL termination, etc) that allows the highly centralized internet to function. However they aren't a gatekeeper at all. You only need cloudflare if you are in the top 5% of internet websites by volume. So when cloudflare has a problem, Lemmy isn't affected, but Reddit is. My blog isn't affected, but someone like https://blog.ipspace.net/ is affected.
My personal browsing habbits meant I didn't even realize there was a cloudflare problem until I read an article about it on Lemmy. Anyway, just a tangent, but as a network engineer I'm sure i'll be interested in the RCA.
Oh man, these global outages are really getting out of hand. A few days after the recent AWS and Azure outages, I suddenly noticed that I couldn't reach certain webpages anymore. And I genuinely didn't even bother trying to debug, because I just assumed that it's another global outage.
In the evening, I did look into it and noticed that my router was at fault (presumably DNS got bugged by a recent update). That was just wild to me, that I genuinely deemed it more likely that several major webpages went offline together than that my home setup is fucky.
To be fair, it’s never DNS ;]
Well yeah. Yourrouter is managed by a person. We aren't as good at fucking up as mega corps.
I mean, sure, I do understand what's happening on a logical level. I'm just so baffled, because this whole internet thingamabob was architected by the military.
It was intentionally built, so that parts of it could fail without disrupting the rest. When a corporation fucks up, it was supposed to take down the servers of that corporation, not also a good chunk of the rest.
But unfortunately, this internet thingamabob is merely the closest approximation we have for the "perfect market" that economics theory calls for, so it still doesn't actually self-regulate like that whole theory would love to believe.
In fact, it is so much worse, because now monopolization happens across the whole planet. Particularly also because we don't have a functioning "world government" that could enforce competition at that level via laws.
So, the network leads to companies monopolizing on top of it and then monopolies necessitate that the respective companies do as poor of a job as possible, because this reduces costs and increases profits. As a result, major parts of this military-grade internet now falter every few weeks.
There's some malicious satisfaction watching centralized internet burning in dumpster fire while your self hosted stuff is still up
Except many of us use cloudflare tunnels to reach our selfhosted kit from the internet because we're behind CGNATs...
Isn't cloudflare a pretty common part of remotely accessing your server? I don't use it but I've seen lots of people talk about it and recommend using them.
yes. it also prevents attacks. it's basically a necessity these days.
if you host your own stuff and get any traffic you'll get DDoSed by bots. cloudflare prevents this by detaching your DNS from your IP and distributing requests.
just port forwarding on your home network these days... and you'll get dozens of attacks per hour.
the internet is not 'nice' anymore. services like cloudflare are a necessity for any active services beyond personal use. long gone are the days you could host a web server from your bedroom.
Maybe you guys are hosting more than me but I've got a few ports forwarded and don't see any unusual activity. I guess I'm just lucky.
For me what triggered getting a lot of malicious login attempts in the logs was pointing a dns record directly at my ip
I do use it myself (free tier only) but it’s out of ease and convenience. I’m ready to abandon it but I like the security it brings. My stuff is just personal garbage with no strict uptime requirement - if I lose public access I still have Tailscale and a VPN to my router as backup.
So, it’s a deal with the devil for sure, but it’s one I wore protection for when signing.
I haven't exposed anything to internet and self hosted headscale instance. I'm not behind CGNAT so it was quite easy.
Yes. All my fedi services are still happy tho :)
Most Lemmy images stopped working. And maybe what my server is showing me in terms of posts is just what it still has stored.
Edit: My server is actually much more responsive with most of the big Lemmy instances being down. I really hope 1.0 brings great improvements.
maybe if big tech stopped firing all their engineers and investing in ai, this could have been prevented.
Cloudflare is increasingly a SPOF for the web
It's hilariously probably at the point where it's beneficial for them from a PR perspective to recommend alternatives to new customers now
Weird. Didn't notice because Cloudflare blocks my real user traffic because I have the audacity to use a VPN and Firefox with privacy extensions that block like maybe two of their arsenal of fingerprinting tools.
Damn, I really shouldn't have trusted cloudflare tunnel. All my selfhosted servers are inaccessible... It's running behind traefik so no ports are open.
VPS+VPN (WireGuard for me), with Tailscale as an emergency alternative, has worked very well for me. Knock on wood the only outages have been my own fault.
Do you have VPS recommendations? I searched for a bit on Lemmy and found out Vultr might not be a good option (they sell your data).
Anyone have a decent guide on migrating from CF tunnels over to a proper reverse proxy? I hate networking 😓
Check out traefik, not sure how easy or the process to switch but configuring it is relatively easy
I'm not sure this is what I'm looking for, I appreciate it though!
I'm hoping for something where the only thing I need to have on someone elses system is DNS entries, ideally.
I know I can use duckdns to automatically update my dns entries when my public IP expires (residential conn), and I know how to handle setting up DNS entries themselves(I hate dns 😓) but I'm just not sure how to configure nginx or apache. As it stands the only "get this thing on the web" tool I'm actually proficient with is streamlit, which I can't use with my selfhosted tools.
That's how I use it, cloudflare handles my DNS and traefik does all the routing, I'd have to look again (been a year since I set it up) but it dynamically updates with my IP
Oh amazing, thank you, I'll take a look at the docs this afternoon 😊
I used these guides to get set up https://www.simplehomelab.com/
It's so funny :P just months ago one of my most used forums adopted cloudflare and many asked "Are you sure?". Well...
In short: yes, because Cloudflare is the man in the middle between you and half the internet, most pages use it's service.
most mortem is here: https://blog.cloudflare.com/18-november-2025-outage/
it was not a ddos.
Can't say I noticed anything tbh
Lemmy.world was affected too, how come? ಠ_ಠ
Because .world definitely uses Cloudflare? https://checkforcloudflare.selesti.com/?q=lemmy.world
ooo thats a cool website. Just for the funnies I just threw the top 35 (as shown by fediverse observer) into it.
Lemmy Filtered
lemmy.world(Active Users: 14512): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
sh.itjust.works(Active Users: 2509): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
lemmy.ml(Active Users: 2087): Cloudflare? No
lemmy.zip(Active Users: 1704): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
lemmy.dbzer0.com(Active Users: 1444): Cloudflare? No
lemmy.ca(Active Users: 1381): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
lemmygrad.ml(Active Users: 972): Cloudflare? No
lemmy.blahaj.zone(Active Users: 956): Cloudflare? No
programming.dev(Active Users: 929): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
discuss.tchncs.de(Active Users: 778): Cloudflare? No
sopuli.xyz(Active Users: 596): Cloudflare? No
slrpnk.net(Active Users: 371): Cloudflare? No
infosec.pub(Active Users: 331): Cloudflare? No
lemmy.today(Active Users: 314): Cloudflare? No
midwest.social(Active Users: 307): Cloudflare? No
reddthat.com(Active Users: 292): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
feddit.nl(Active Users: 290): Cloudflare? No
pawb.social(Active Users: 243): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
forum.guncadindex.com(Active Users: 234): Cloudflare? No
mander.xyz(Active Users: 194): Cloudflare? No
lemmings.world(Active Users: 177): Cloudflare? No
ani.social(Active Users: 173): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
feddit.it(Active Users: 158): Cloudflare? No
startrek.website(Active Users: 156): Cloudflare? No
feddit.dk(Active Users: 151): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,cname)
leminal.space(Active Users: 126): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
ttrpg.network(Active Users: 125): Cloudflare? No
szmer.info(Active Users: 116): Cloudflare? No
lemmy.eco.br(Active Users: 99): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
lemy.lol(Active Users: 97): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,cname)
awful.systems(Active Users: 90): Cloudflare? No
Fediverse as a whole
mastodon.social(Active Users: 255517): Cloudflare? No
pixelfed.social(Active Users: 61361): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
community.sketchucation.com(Active Users: 33551): Cloudflare? No
pawoo.net(Active Users: 17637): Cloudflare? No
lemmy.world(Active Users: 14505): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
mstdn.jp(Active Users: 12531): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
infosec.exchange(Active Users: 11773): Cloudflare? No
mstdn.social(Active Users: 11589): Cloudflare? No
mas.to(Active Users: 10344): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
planet.moe(Active Users: 9918): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,cname)
mastodon.online(Active Users: 8493): Cloudflare? No
phijkchu.com(Active Users: 8463): Cloudflare? Yes(cname)
fosstodon.org(Active Users: 8403): Cloudflare? No
hachyderm.io(Active Users: 8302): Cloudflare? No
mastodon.world(Active Users: 7941): Cloudflare? No
piaille.fr(Active Users: 7934): Cloudflare? No
fedibird.com(Active Users: 7840): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,cname)
social.vivaldi.net(Active Users: 6561): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
m.cmx.im(Active Users: 6109): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
micro.blog(Active Users: 6067): Cloudflare? No
pixelfed.uno(Active Users: 6027): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,cname)
troet.cafe(Active Users: 6016): Cloudflare? No
chaos.social(Active Users: 5995): Cloudflare? No
mastodon.uno(Active Users: 5554): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,cname)
st.fdel.moe(Active Users: 5136): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
mastodon.gamedev.place(Active Users: 4556): Cloudflare? No
techhub.social(Active Users: 4532): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
mastodon.art(Active Users: 3848): Cloudflare? No
pixelfed.de(Active Users: 3806): Cloudflare? No
social.tchncs.de(Active Users: 3556): Cloudflare? No
mastodon.nl(Active Users: 3537): Cloudflare? No
wxw.moe(Active Users: 3237): Cloudflare? Yes(dns,proxy,cname)
wxw.ooo(Active Users: 3237): Cloudflare? No
norden.social(Active Users: 3206): Cloudflare? No
Lemmy works so let the world just burn down. oh also chatgpt does not work hurraayyy
Lemmy.zip apparently uses Cloudflare.
lemmy world was down apparently.
All my services are fine. I self host. Yes I'm quite pedantic about it. :D
I also self host, but I can't claim to have better uptime than Cloudflare
Yes and they keep doing this every other week it feels like.
I don't know what's gone wrong but they need to get real people making their code again (I'm assuming they have taken the leash off cursor in all their repos, because it feels like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!).
Seriously, please stop taking down the internet.
And second seriously we need a new alien age technology that can stop us having to route all of our traffic through one service.
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