Never worry about commie crap like public citations getting in the way of misinformation rhetoric again! (Because the LLM trained on fuckin twitter made it up lmao)

On the flipside for an actually cool non-cucked integration of LLMs with wikipedia check out this post on the localllama where the person shares their project of using a local private llm to search through a local kiwix server instance of wikipedia. https://piefed.social/post/1333130

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[–] [S] 79 points 11 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 50 points 11 months ago (27 children)

    What's with his obession with the name "grok" though? Sounds like the sound frog made

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  • [–] 46 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    It's from a book I love, Robert Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land. The word is the Martian term for fully understanding something.

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    That's really funny. He steals the name Tesla and Grok and when he tries to come up with his own names, we get "X" and "X Æ A-Xii"

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    All the tech fascists steal words. Palantir is from Lord of the Rings.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Which infuriates me as a LotR fan.

    and also makes me side eye Chris Tolkien hard, cause he is normally very aggressive in protecting the intellectual property..

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I do not sense a wrongness in your post so I will not disappear you. :)

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    What an obscure reach to make.

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I believe it is from the book stranger in a strange land. Its meaning is like to deeeeply understand, I think.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Not deeply but completely and absolutely.

    Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the observed — to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion, philosophy, and science and it means as little to us as color does to a blind man.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    You got the original explanation, but grok was taken up by computer nerds way back in the day. It's not merely understanding a thing, in the book or the slang. To grok means to completely wrap your head around the subject, not merely surface level understanding, really feel it down deep.

    As to Musk's obsession? He wants to be seen as the cool kid, the smart hacker, the guy who groks what's really going on.

    Honestly it's a great name for a search engine or AI. And now he's actively ruining it like everything else he touches.

    BTW, Stranger in a Strange Land is an excellent book. I laugh when people call Heinlein a fascist for writing Starship Troopers. "So, how about that hippie book?" Heinlein's books examine various government and economic systems, "What if it worked this way?"

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Funny you say that. In Serbia, they say the noise a pig makes is "grok". My wife burst out laughing when she found out the name of Elon's AI.

    Imagine some Saudi prince launches an AI called Oink, and then sets up Oinkepedia

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I always assumed Grok was chosen to hint as his technology background. For which "grok" is a popular term used for reading and understanding, with code in particular.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    It's a Heinlein - "stranger in a strange land" concept. It sort of spread out in nerdery from there where it meant you know and you're in the know.

    To know is to understand fully sort of. He's doing the literal opposite which is a bit 1984 of him and is also likely another book he's read and didn't understand or at least had pretended to have read.

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  • [–] 49 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Rather ironic given that wikipedia makes a massive portion of LLM training corpus

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Not to mention most Grokipedia pages are straight copied from Wikipedia!

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Didn't there used to be conservapedia that was just Wikipedia but edited to match their imagined reality?

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  • [–] [S] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    ... I really hoped that this wasn't a thing, but im not surprised in the least.

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    Its just fucking painful, man.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 30 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Funny how the "voting irregularities" magically disappeared when he won.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago*

    If you have to create a wikipedia alternative to stop being fact checked, then maybe you are just fuckin wrong.

    Billionaires: "No, No.. I can't be wrong. I'm Rich! I'll create a microcosm of information that warps reality to make sure I'm right!"

    Conservapedia: Wait..thats what I was for.. what about me?!

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    So why didn't Conservapedia take off? If it's unbiased truth, no liberal agenda, it should have blown Wikipedia out of the water a decade ago. Funny that.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Conservapedia was comically stupid. Like, there was a lengthy diatribe against the Theory of Relativity that seemed largely based off Andrew Schlafly confusing the Physics term "relativity" with "moral relativity" and being against the latter. This was especially weird because Schlafly personally had a background in applied physics and so ought to know that GPS satellites serve as a proof of some of Relativity.

    As embarrassing as basically every page of Conservapedia was, at least it represented some stupid man's beliefs and effort. Grokipedia can't even do that.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    "We have compiled the largest website full of absolute bullshit and stupidity to compete against the largest compendium of real human knowledge."

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  • [+] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Reality has a well known liberal bias

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    That dipshit really doesn't have any understanding of what the word grok actually means.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Tbf, I never thought it meant anything

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    "Elon invented the airplane."

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Elon is one thing, but the Grok developers have recently done a surprisingly good job at making it neutral and unbiased in matters of opinion, but also allowing it to tell people they're wrong in matters of fact, which is why there's so many screenshots around of conspiracy theorists getting shut down by it.

    I can't say whether this will be the same, but if the devs take "without bias" to actually mean "without bias," rather than what Elon intends it to mean, it could actually be somewhat useful to filter out obvious promotional content and any small levels of bias.

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