I've been at the Debian part of the graph for years!

Heyooo same

Popos is awesome.

I'm on Gentoo and I feel attacked.

Also I have no clue what SuSe is doing in the enligthenment part. I started with SuSe an thought it was cool, went back to it a few years later and realised that it was a steaming hot mess.

Really I've been running my Gentoo like a Debian, (mostly) all stable packages. It just never breaks, it keeps updating without issues year after year. The People that have issues with Gentoo are mostly having them because they try running lots of testing packages.

I tried running arch on my wifes computer and it is a mess that constantly breaks for no reason. She is on Manjaro currently and it is slightly better.

Since flatpak and Gentoo binary packages I have been floating the idea to switch her computer to a fully stable Gentoo and let her install applications through flatpak.

Tried Suse and Red Hat before Fedora existed... Also a lot of stuff that isn't on this graph, and made a system from scratch two times because of strict requirements.

No plans of moving from Debian. Why TF can one argue that those two are more productive? The only reason to use Fedora in particular is if you are stuck with it due to some hardware or contractual requirement.

manjaro really is a trap.

I mean, sure, you can brick the system if you do something stupid probably. I never did but I dont take risks.

I think they want to learn. They wanna know their os. It's why you choose Linux unless you're like my girlfriend which just gets mint installed and stays happy on it

Snaps. Snaps are the, and a good reason. Canonical has done a very poor job with them. Whether it was trying to keep control over them, the duplication of work, the performance issues etc. There's lots of reasons.

I wouldn't insult someone for using Ubuntu, like I wouldn't insult someone for using Manjaro. But I wouldn't shy away from recommending better distributions when applicable. I think most of us have been through them all over the years. It's kind of a rite of passage.

I can confidently say that I used Ubuntu (different versions even) many years ago on work computers and the Frankenstein monster it became and it breaking when updating was a real problem. I'll never do it again. Arch has it's problems but less worries managing it and updating.

The lts trap + old kernel version + plus their horrible custom patching of it + needing other ppas for some hardware to work on top of that of custom patched kernel to support whatever specific thing the laptop needed that was available on more recent kernel version + the need for some apps/tools with recent versions... Hell, all of it.

That statement that people who know that Ubuntu sucks don't know that it is a Debian derivative is incredibly unlikely