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[–] 28 points 1 year ago

A bargaining chip for China considering that Trump wants to make a deal. It's on brand too because he caused the problem to begin with.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    China should not trust the united snakes

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    China is right to be skeptical of the US. But this might be a case where they're somewhat aligned. Beijing probably would rather Iran not have nukes since that would make them a much more powerful player in the region. And China is very energy dependent on oil imports. If the straight is closed, that would greatly impact Chinese industry.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Do you really believe in Iran wanting nuke? The united snake having control of Iran isn't good at all for China too

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yes. Apparently Putin does too since he recently mentioned that they might give nukes to Iran.

    Here's what I believe out of all this:

    • Iran is a totalitarian theocracy that has been trying to develop nukes for a long time.
    • Everyone except the Iranian government would rather Iran not have nukes. It would essentially be the middle eastern version of North Korea.
    • Israel attacked a lot of Iran's air defenses and convinced Trump this was a unique opportunity to strike Iranian nuclear sites. Israel doesn't have the capability since they don't have bunker busters and the sites are underground. They probably convinced him he would be seen as bringing peace to the middle east which is why he ended his post about peace.
    • Trump legit thinks this is a 1 time thing and he can be done with it. He's not trying to turn Iran into a puppet state, just wipe out their nuclear capability.
    • Trump is wrong and we're going to be dragged into another war in the middle east. Just because Iran's military couldn't attack the US, doesn't mean there won't be consequences. I think trump is too stupid to see that far ahead.

    What I foresee is Iran closing the straight, which will raise oil prices, which will raise US gas prices. This is when MAGA representatives will break with trump because he will be incapable of walking back or expressing regret. I also foresee Iran trying some 9/11 style attack on the US, dragging America back into the middle east.

    If you think Iran's nuclear program was entirely about nuclear energy, I've got a bridge over the straight or Hormuz to sell you.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Iran is a totalitarian theocracy that has been trying to develop nukes for a long time.

    Iran is a s religious country ruled by the supreme leader , Khamenei had released a religious decree prohibiting the use of nukes. So no Iran is not pursuing nukes or even getting it from Russia . You just believe Satanyaho claims , Satanyaho was saying Iran is so close to having nuclear arms for over 30 years . Israel and America under trump has the biggest chance to drop nukes than any other countries

    Israel attacked a lot of Iran's air defenses and convinced Trump this was a unique opportunity to strike Iranian nuclear sites. Israel doesn't have the capability since they don't have bunker busters and the sites are underground. They probably convinced him he would be seen as bringing peace to the middle east which is why he ended his post about peace.

    Trump is a zionist just like all previous American president not because he care about Jewish supremacy but because of American imperial interests like it always been. Israel didn't convince him to do anything he willfully helped Israel just like any other American president will always do

    Trump legit thinks this is a 1 time thing and he can be done with it. He's not trying to turn Iran into a puppet state, just wipe out their nuclear capability.

    Another BS , both Israel and America want a regime change. From Israel perspective they want to destroy or control any country that effetely support Palestinian liberation movements. Iran support for Palestinian is of course based on geopolitics but still they are supporting Palestinians. For American all what they did against Iran was for natural resources and to have more leverage against America biggest two enemies Russia and China . Instead of the united state with diplomacy have good relation will Iran , it decided to overthrow Iranian democracy in 53 and impose sanctions since them

    Iran trying some 9/11 style attack on the US, dragging America back into the middle east.

    Iran could have done terrorists attacks since 79 in American soil they never did and will never did. That would be a very dumb idea, It will hurt people who support Iran. Iran will just attack military bases and trump will use that excuse to call it an aggression against American and American interests and keep getting involved in the war

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Incompetent morons didn’t see the most obvious issue all the people they fired could have told them about.

    Episode 61.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Me as a powerless USian

    Also I wish the media would get the poor guy's name right it is MICRO Rubio not Marco.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    China is in bed with Iran and Russia with regards to BRICS. I find it very unlikely China is going to do anything to get in between Israel and Iran, and even if they do, its clear to me which side they'll choose.

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    [–] 103 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hilarious.

    Trump attacks Iran

    Iran shuts down oil

    Markets crash

    Who could have predicted this?

    Anyone interested in stealing from YOUR retirement account through market manipulation

    This is all part of the plan of men smarter than the pissbag

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump: “There should be no consequences for my actions.”

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  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago

    If I were China I would tell him to pound sand since he's been being bellicose about china in the panama canal. Also they're friendly with Iran so Iran could just let chinese flagged ships through and attack anyone else.

    Maybe marco should have tried harder to convince mushroom dick into not joining a fucking war just because bibi asked him to.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fucking-A... How mentally challenged is the US to ask this of the country they declared a trade war against???

    Trump's Art of the Deal involves lots of getting on his knees.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Ok so like if China did do that, whats in it for them?

    Also, if the price of oil spikes will that cause a market crash that crashes the housing bubble? Seems like this might be a entirely-too-fucked-up way to make housing affordable again.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Iran could easily allow China-bound ships and shut out everyone else, which they'll probably do if China pushes for it.

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    if they allowed through any shipments, it would defeat the entire purpose of closing the Strait. Oil is fungible and will be resold if a profit can be made

    Every additional step in the supply chain increases the price since everyone adds their own margin, and at some point it becomes more expensive than oil alternatives (for example, bio-plastics). Anyway, if China started reselling the oil then Iran would stop letting them through.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Anything else would be open to air attack and about as effective as the Houthis, which is to say not very.

    You mean the terrorist group who forced both the US and China to make deals with them?

    I think they proved that this is a shockingly successful technique

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That's not the part that matters... They're not pirates

    They scared the shipping companies enough to affect the global economy.

    It doesn't matter if all they do is give some deck hand PTSD by taking pot shots at them - They still made the biggest economies in the world come to them for a deal

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    [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Xi could present Trump a map of the middle east with Taiwan moved off the coast of Oman and negotiate for uncontested seizure of Taiwan within a week

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