Photos captured by Mobile Fortify will be stored for 15 years, regardless of immigration or citizenship status, the document says.

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[–] 221 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Imagine Trump voters reading this EXACT headline during Biden's presidency. They would have lost their minds. They wouldn't take a vaccine because they thought there was a 5g chip in it, but this is ok?

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I was raised by republicans so I can provide some insight. Its because they would have to admit they were wrong about Trump. You can either admit you were wrong and declare him a tyrant or you can back him on everything. You can guess which most of them choose.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."

    • Carl Sagan
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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled

    Mark Twain perhaps

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not perhaps. All quotes have been authoritatively traced to Mark Twain, even this one.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Which that also blows my mind. Where did they get it in them that it’s so hard to admit your wrong?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    It's human nature that some people don't feel, or don't feel as acutely. There's also a cultish aspect to it, where because everything is MAGA Vs democrats, all your friends and identity are likely bound up in the same thing, so admitting you were wrong isn't just admitting you were wrong: it's completely changing the way you see yourself and severing many relationships.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago

    These are the same asshats that are just fine with Taco invading blue cities and threatening more. Including the use of Marines, FFS. And he's threatening a lot more. They are still with him.

    But they had a collective freakout over Jade Helm.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Surely cougars wouldn't eat my face.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    They don’t read. Literally every headline r/Conservative goes like this:

    “Illegal Immigrant took all the jobs then raped and murdered 100 babies. Libtards protested his deportation by throwing rocks at cops”

    The literally only see propaganda to make them scared of immigrants and liberals. They don’t actually see any news about things the administration actually does/says.

    They won’t even know they have a double standard.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I think this says something more about the Left and Liberals in the USA :P

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • I mean, moreso, that we're just taking it. Conservatives stormed stores with mask mandates and forcefully "bought" items while being refused service. In Canada, they had that whole Truck convoy. All of this, over conspiracy theories and inconveniences.

    Meanwhile ICE is running mass "deportations" (to random countries the victims never belonged to) and people are... just letting it happen??

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    [–] 73 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    4th Amendment, fare thee well... Nice to have known you.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    4th Amendment doesn't even specify "citizens", it's "the people".

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    I'm sure they have a warrant to sieze your image, right? Um... right? 😉

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  • [–] 104 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Guess that will be tested when a lawyer is told to scan their face.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is scary:

    On Wednesday, ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee Bennie G. Thompson told 404 Media in a statement that ICE will prioritize the results of the app over birth certificates. “ICE officials have told us that an apparent biometric match by Mobile Fortify is a ‘definitive’ determination of a person’s status and that an ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,” he said. “ICE using a mobile biometrics app in ways its developers at CBP never intended or tested is a frightening, repugnant, and unconstitutional attack on Americans’ rights and freedoms

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    UNCONSTITUTIONAL: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah I’m really glad DHS doesn’t get to arbitrarily override the constitution

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh so this document is the one with the real laws. All the other documents that say they can't do the things they are doing are invalid but we better respect this one! Or else

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You can probably refuse not to make a Funny face

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Just wear a mask like they do?

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They make you lower the mask to get scanned, this won’t work unfortunately.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    I'm starting to think this is necessary. Don't use a scary mask like they do, a medical one is good enough, because you don't want to be the reason other people get sick. Or because you are at risk of getting sick. Or because you don't like the taste of boot.

    Shades that cover a large area helps too.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oakleys: They're not just for MAGA any more!

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago*

    My 4a…

    We should all wear masks just like they do.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The fuck they can. I swear to Christ, Trump could say he's going to do the mark of the beast so liberals can't buy anything and every maggot on this planet would jump at the chance to get the mark. Irony and hypocrisy are lost on them

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago

    https://archive.ph/CecdP

    Mods, please make supplying archive links a rule.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you go to a protest, wear a gaiter and glasses and ballcap just like those ICE fuckers. And depending where you live you might just want to make this your default outfit for leaving the house at all.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The U.S. Department of Defense quickly viewed biometric data and what it called “identity dominance” as the cornerstone of multiple counterterrorism and counterinsurgency strategies. Identity dominance means being able to keep track of people the military considers a potential threat regardless of aliases, and ultimately denying organizations the ability to use anonymity to hide their activities.

    By 2004, thousands of U.S. military personnel had been trained to collect biometric data to support the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. By 2007, U.S. forces were collecting biometric data primarily through mobile devices such as the Biometric Automated Toolset (BAT) and Handheld Interagency Identity Detection Equipment (HIIDE). BAT includes a laptop, fingerprint reader, iris scanner and camera. HIIDE is a single small device that incorporates a fingerprint reader, iris scanner and camera. Users of these devices can collect iris and fingerprint scans and facial photos, and match them to entries in military databases and biometric watchlists.

    https://theconversation.com/afghanistans-taliban-reportedly-have-control-of-us-biometric-devices-a-lesson-in-life-and-death-consequences-of-data-privacy-166465

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Therefore these are going to sell out:

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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Any ICE or DHS employees who try to scan my face aren't allowed to walk away unscathed.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What open source technologies does it use? Someone could do a supply-side attack.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Why don't Democrats run on a privacy platform. Sure there's Senator Wyden, but other dems need to be on this. Pivot and make the Democratic party the privacy party.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Democrats will do nothing. Trump is right when he calls them “do-nothing democrats”. All they do is sit in their high castle and say “why can’t we all just get along?”.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Democrats are not your friends, they work for the same people as maga/nazis.

    We have a nazi problem. There is no app, or voting, or debating, or rationalizing that will get rid of it. The only way to rid yourself of cancer is to take the really painful medicine, and americans aren't ready to do that yet.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And unless they can show me a warrant, I'll be wearing a mask.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They will just beat the shit out of you and pull down your mask and do it regardless

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Where is the national liberation party?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Someone should do this to the entire Trump staff when they trespass back in from their luxury vacation to Asia.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Papers, please.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    The fuck I can't!

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Oh yes I can

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