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A graph showing that Bazzite has reached 31.6k users while other Fedora Atomic Distros show marginal growth

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[–] 31 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Bazzite is absolutely great, if you just want a very reliable system that just works and goes out of your way. I lean nowadays way more into recommending Bazzite to new Linux users, since there is literally not much to initially set up, no matter the hardware. Gaming works perfectly fine and any regular users software needs get easily satisfied by the Bazaar.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I am too much of a tinkerer for Bazzite, but it’s still the distro I recommend the most for new users. If they decide they need more freedom, then Fedora KDE is the next step I recommend.

    Most Windows expats should be completely happy with Bazzite.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I really wanted to like Bazzite but after a couple of months I couldn't handle it. I really need the tinkering πŸ˜†.

    I'm considering it for the kids though once we get a family PC, but I also really want things like being able to switch between Gnome and KDE and other stuff like that which makes the experience nicer.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Absolutely. I switched to Bazzite and it is everything I wanted from the switch. So painless. I have yet to find a game I want to play that wont play. Ive been using it for all my normal computer tasks. Its been the best transition to linux I’ve experienced as ive tried in the past but always hit some sort of snag

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It might be beginner friendly, but it doesn't mean you can't do pretty much anything else you'd want to do on any other distro. It's just a different process.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Agreed. I'm a software dev and I also have a ton of weird and niche hobbies I use my PC for and I've never run into anything I felt like Bazzite prevented me from doing. Even if they didn't offer the super convenient developer edition.

    For example, the immutable root partition doesn't stop me from adding udev rules in /etc.

    In fact, DistroBox gives me the freedom to use any package from any distro I want, including the Arch AUR.

    Anyone who says Bazzite is "too limiting" doesn't understand how it actually works.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I've been using it for 3mo now. Mostly no issues, except for installing packages without flatpak, and also the weird random slowdown to freeze (I'm assuming memory management?) I mostly use my machine for learning freecad, watxhing jellyfin, using a browser, and playing Genshin (relaxing to play while people bitch at me on my phone job)

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  • I also installed it on two machines now and really like it. But I have exactly the same freezing issues. I already increased my zram swap to 8GB (having 32GB RAM), but long running idle games still freeze the whole system after a while. Could be a memory leak. I also tried to tweak the config so that applications are automatically closed when on low RAM, but that still didn't help yet.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    I havent tried it but I cant see how it can be better than arch Linux with its AUR. Almost all software that exists is right there in its latest version.

    Fedora feels a lot more limited. I think just because bazzite is novel, a lot of people are trying it now. I dont think the popularity will last. People will understand that they get many issues with it and go back to a normal Linux.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You have complete access to the AUR via Distrobox. Also, how do you conclude that it has "many issues"? I do get that Bazzite might not be for everyone, but please, elaborate.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Since its immutable, I imagine that a lot of apps may not "just work" and need special packaging or configuration. But I havent used it. What would you say? Apps just work or they need anything special? Will Flatpaks work?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Flatpak works just fine, as it installs to the user directory and not any immutable part of the filesystem. Any non-flatpak apps can be ran in distrobox.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Distrobox seems to be a container... I wonder how well that works with applications following system themes and being able to be seen in app launchers.

    Its interesting but my experience is that usually you do get some issues with solutions where apps are not native.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Let’s see, Microsoft kills 10, which nobody really loved but they were willing to tolerate. Microsoft insists they move to 11, which is universally reviled.

    Gamers predictably say β€œfuck this” and install the first gaming-oriented alternative to windows 11 they can find on Bing, and then this happens.

    Has Microsoft realized the Intel-level deep shit they are in yet?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Microsoft doesn't actually care because most of their revenue is from corporate environments tied to the OS and their cloud offerings. Everyday users are nothing to them, which is why they don't try harder to keep you from using unactivated copies of windows. You are nothing

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    The IT folk doesn't have any power in big companies. They get told what to install by higher management. And higher management usually knows fuckall about computers but does listen to consultants and fancy buzzwords which is something Microsoft is insanely good at.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    5k in 2 months isn’t a lot.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not if we look at it as linear growth. But in the environment we are in, this has the potential to be exponential growth.

    Remember when Intel intentionally ignored the mobile market?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    But the mobile market is filled in now and android is the windows of mobile

    This isnt a magical new market.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I think it may be dawning on them. I'm on an international holiday & didn't get time to faff about installing Linux before I left. But I discovered the day before my flight that Microsoft has extended its offer of security updates for another year to individuals as well as businesses free of charge, and signed up. Last time I'd looked I'm sure ESU was for businesses only.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/extended-security-updates

    The bit that made me laugh was: "ESU enrollment does not provide other types of fixes, feature improvements, or product enhancements." Phew!

    I'll crack on with upgrading to Linux when I get home, nice little winter project.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I thought it was just my YouTube algorithm showing me install bazzite. Hehe guess there was a trend

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  • [–] [S] 24 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    I think its hitting a critical mass, that much upward growth is very encouraging to see. I was able to convince a handful of friends to switch to linux due to windows getting so bad, they liked the extremely simple approach Bazzite has. I think its better than Mint in this regard, Fedora has come such a long way.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    What is bazzite doing differently compared to mint?

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago*

    It's image based, so it's very hard for a beginner to fuck it up, and if they do its one or two lines of commands to fix 99% of the time.

    eg rpm-ostree rebase or rpm-ostree reset

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The immutability is the main difference. If something gets messed up, on boot you simply change to the previous image and you're back up and running again.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I keep seeing people saying this but realistically how many new users had to do that? IMO, it’s just the fact that Bazzite has pretty much everything you need out of the box.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Eh, on something as customizable as Linux where the solution to problems can often be "run this line in the terminal", I do believe that a new user can mess up their configuration. I remember Linus from LTT having to deal with a few problems while doing the challenge.

    It's certainly also the fact that everything you need is already there out of the box, no need for tinkering to get the GPU drivers installed.

    The two things are probably both true

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    so it maintains several editions at once? that sounds like a space hog even though it's useful.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Two editions, the current one and previous one, I believe

    And the space hog is like a few gigabytes. I think that's well worth it for a beginner when it means that in the worst case you can always roll back when we have like terabytes of space

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Man. Props to the team. At least from my perspective (I'm not into distro hoping anymore) they came out of nowhere and people absolutely loved them. I should give them a test on a VM, specially since I've been recommending against them because I didn't think they are a good fit for llinux newcomers

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Upstream, the Fedora KDE Plasma edition is also doing well. Nice to see that within the first release after promotion to a full edition.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    What happened the 3rd week of April? Fedora got a massive spike there. The other one has a small bump at that time as well

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I am one of them! Converted my main machine this weekend. The worst problem I have had is getting the settings right for a Jellyfin container. Got all my games running, even City of Heroes (using Wine / Lutris). Takes a little getting used to when I have mostly used Debian-based distros in the past.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Bazzite is an awesome gaming machine but I def find it annoying for other stuff sometimes. I should probably install a separate distribution for everything else but I don’t want to flip between two.

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  • That's amazing. Been using it for 6 months, loving it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I so badly want to do the "old man yells at cloud" meme and be angry that Bazzite is so popular.

    I want to do it, I'm resisting hnnnngg

    Atomic bad because different and I don't like things that are different. πŸ§“

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Started my EndeavoursOS gaming PC. Oh no, my new-Steam lists the game as windows only?

    Proceeds to install proton and related software and bam, I can game.

    I know it's not Bazzite but there is sure as hell little reason not to use Linux any more except for enterprise computers and laptops.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I’ve been on Linux for a bit. I was fedora for a long time and it’s totally fine but I tried out Bazzite for gaming and it’s been really good experience. I like tinkering but I never played as much game time because I was tinker with it. Now it mostly just work and that’s awesome.

    There are a few things I don’t like about Bazzite, like ujust for example, but it’s still worth it to me.

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  • I'm a long-time Mint guy, my current desktop is Fedora KDE because Wayland, and I'm looking at Bazzite for my old computer/HTPC but it doesn't support my old GTX-1080 GPU, I might get a low-tier Radeon for it (I don't want to buy an Intel card and fuck Nvidia's butt, that GTX-1080 was literally the only GPU available to me in 2020).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If anyone likes Bazzite but doesn't want the immutability, Garuda is also gamer focused and easy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Garuda is great. I tried Bazzite on my nvidia based laptop and had problems getting it to work well (to be fair to Bazzite, this was well over a year ago when Bazzite was very new on the scene - I have no idea if i'd have the same problems today). Replaced it with Garuda (which I had been running on my desktop) and it literally "just worked". And, frankly, I'm a linux idiot. I basically just read the messages that pop up occasionally and do my best to do things like they say (for example, I try to remember to run updates before the system has to tell me "hey, it's been a bit. Would be best if you would update me soon").

    Speaking of being an idiot... I don't even know if I HAVE to download the "dragonized" version to get all the gaming bells and whistles just as easily, or if I can use their KDE plasma version that doesn't have all the theming and still get the "gaming" tweaks? Since my system works, I don't want to install a new version just to find out, but I feel like I could convince other people to try it more if they got the same functional experience without all the purple glowing stuff out of the box.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    The amount of stuff i read about it ,i'd thought 30 Million! Lot of noise about it out there.

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  • I too was surprise to read the actual number being so low considering how much it's talked about. I never really saw the appeal as steam is pretty easy to get set up and running on any mainstream Linux distro with little fuss, but I recognize it was set up for newbies who want an gaming ready experience. It's an interesting project regardless.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I started trying out Bazzite yesterday and it’s been great so far! HDR is not as simple to get working as their marketing would make you think, but once you know what to do it’s not so bad.

    Al’s I’m having trouble getting OpenRGB working correctly.

    But other than that it’s been pretty good. It’s harder to tweak than Ubuntu (what I was previously using) but works much much better out of the box.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    If you're on a Gigabyte mobo openRGB may not work at all.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    It’s working for just setting static colors, but when I try to install plugins it doesn’t show up at all. I wanted to use HardwareSync and maybe Effects.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    You have to find the right plugin version. The ones on the website use different versions than the one installed by ujust. I can't remember where I found them but it was a github repo

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is bazzite better than Steam OS?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I was also wondering what the fuck this is. From the Wikipedia introductory paragraph:

    Bazzite is a Fedora-based[1] Linux distribution designed to be similar to Valve's SteamOS 3 while still functioning as a normal computer.[2][3][4] It offers support for handheld PC devices, including the Steam Deck.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    while still functioning as a normal computer

    Reminds me of when a school instructor walked by and looked at my laptop and he's like "whoa what is that" (I had Firefox running) and I said it was Linux and he was like "whoa I didn't know Linux could do that"

    ???

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Booted up Bazzite and everything just worked except League of Legends anticheat and Linux SteamVR. Supposedly SteamVR got patched. So League is the last thing keeping me on Windows 11. Could probably boot to Win11 as needed anytime I want to though

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    [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm surprised Aurora is so low on the list. I've been loving it on my Dev laptop. Huuuuge improvement over Ubuntu. It feels so much snappier, ironically.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do you know whats the difference between aurora and bazzite? Its from the same team and looks a bit similiar so I am a bit confused about it

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Supposedly its focused on the Dev experience rather than the gamer experience but I also do development on Bazzite without issue. So I guess the real answer is "not much"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Lemmy has a similar number of active users and makes about 3K . That money would be good for the ecosystem and could help fund upstream projects (I am sure wine could use the money for example). But they will have to use fundraising methods similar to lemmy to reach that number (popup, good message etc)

    The donate page is kinda a mess IMO to be honest. There should be one organisation to donate to otherwise this creates overchoice.

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