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In an attempt to argue that ICE protestors are radically out of control, the emergency appeal argues, “The federal agents’ efforts are met with prolonged, coordinated, violent resistance that threatens their lives and safety and systematically interferes with their ability to enforce federal law.” The Daily Beast has reached out to the White House for comment.

The White House was caught trying to pass off footage of violence in red states as footage from the “chaos” in Chicago last week.

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[–] 101 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

At its most basic level, society is just a mutual non-aggression pact with the enforcement mechanism of the state monopoly on violence. The condition of that monopoly is that state violence must be used in an unbiased and dispassionate way. Any violations of this condition are only tolerated to the extent that open war is mutually assured destruction, a decidedly worse outcome.

The politicians inciting violence and the oligarchs supporting them should realize that if state violence leads to open war, the pact is broken and there are no more rules.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's absolutely wild that our society is being repeatedly tested at the civilian level right now... I cannot fucking believe we've been able to resist violence as much as we have without returning it.

    Just goes to prove most people aren't like Trump, and they certainly aren't even remotely resembling what Trump paints us as. He's genuinely confused and frustrated by the lack of response.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    That’s another sad part of this. A war would be disastrous for everyone involved and even if the good guys win America would never regain its place on the world stage like it is now.

    If we get weaker (because of internal war) every other world power would do everything in thier power to make sure we never got the influence we had back.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I am not sure about America losing power long-term, if Antifa took the reins after a civil war. A great deal of America's current strength comes from inertia, but the institutions, egalitarianism, and education to power the future was already dwindling before Trump. A refreshed America might unlock a great deal of potential that was stalled by bad politics and an unfair economy.

    For example, universal healthcare. A post-war America might be able to readily heal everybody within its borders, which frees up time for those people to do other things - inventing, creating, raising family, going to 3rd places, and so forth. The mental and physical wellbeings of every individual, in turn, affects the mindset of a nation as a whole.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Good.

    The loss of influence, that is. The US's outsized influence on the world stage has not exactly been a boon.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Im not going to say America being this powerful is good for the world. It certainly makes life easier for Americans being this powerhouse.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Too easy. The populace got soft and complacent, allowing this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    So you? You are to soft and complacent and would like a more difficult life?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Let's all be honest for a moment. We have all became way more invested in politics right now due to trump. A lot of us (myself) paid attention, sure, but not like i do now. I am way more vigilant about finding out who is paying who, what companies I need to boycott, questioning every Dems loyalty to the people. Scrutinizing everything from both sides.

    Being a little uncomfortable has made me a more invested citizen.

    I really just couldn't be bothered to put this much time into politics before. I never thought it was going to go backwards. I incorrectly assumed things would continue progressing. I kept an eye on things. Always voted dem. But I Never checked for pac aipac money. Or what past bills they voted on.

    Now I do. And I check what they voted for in the past. I go through all their history before I endorse.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    This is it, supreme court. This is the moment where you choose to press the self destruct button on the republic. On "we, the people".

    This is the moment in history where you choose the new Klu Klux King of Chaos and Concentration Camps for profit, where you choose the fat orange faced man who is embodiment of stupidity and stupid hatred over the Constitution and the promise of a nation where the people choose their leaders.

    You're mistaken if you think there's a constitution left for you to interpret. No, there's just a vehicle in the night and some guns with masks.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    lol welp let’s just say I’m not optimistic

    Even if the Supreme Court rules against Trump in the case, there’s no guarantee that Trump will abide by the decision. In a Thursday interview with The New York Times, Justice Amy Coney Barrett admitted that the Supreme Court has no power to ensure the president obeys its decisions.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If he doesn't abide by the decision then SCOTUS and Congress need to issue an arrest warrant for him and his administration

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago

    Let me start a civil war!

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  • [+] 49 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Someone here posted months ago a thing that stuck with me. The next big war will be between the rich and the poor. The rich will win before the poor realize they're in battle.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    There are more of us then them, we are more self sufficient than them, we are more resilient than them, we are more desperate than them. The real world is our natural environment, the rich are the arrogant invaders. Vietnam comes to mind when I think what a war of rich vs poor might look like. It won't be near misses and broken escalators for long, when a sufficiently large number of people become sufficiently mad, their ivory towers will become prisons.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, the rich win right up to the point that the people they pay to fight for them switch sides.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, but the really shitty thing is that there are a lot of poor people who will fight and die for the rich side because they think it's right.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    This is generally the compact. If you kill all the cattle, you're fucked. We're the cattle. The con is supposed to be that they feed and water us and we enable their lifestyle. But they are forgetting their job due to unchecked greed/avarice.

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    States rights, huh?

    Well, see ya later.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Even if the Supreme Court rules against Trump in the case, there’s no guarantee that Trump will abide by the decision. In a Thursday interview with The New York Times, Justice Amy Coney Barrett admitted that the Supreme Court has no power to ensure the president obeys its decisions.

    Jesus fucking christ 🫠

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    [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Play them pianos Chicago.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Holden Bloodfeast.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    I'm pretty sure he can just go if he wants to

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    [–] 75 points 1 year ago

    Watching a rich old powerful white man abuse people who he looks down on while appealing to authority to validate his violent reactions is not a pleasant thing to relive repeatedly.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    The one who got arrested for DUI with his kids in the truck was interfering with his own ability to enforce his cult leaders wishes.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Oh great our last thread of freedom and constitutional rights relying on a bunch of corrupt Nazi activist criminal judges who can’t enforce their decisions anyway.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    He's literally Holden Bloodfeast (Please, oh god, just let us bomb Iran, nothing else matters)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    The White House was caught trying to pass off footage....

    If you missed this like me

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