The Kansas GOP said it was “disgusted” by the comments and that they do not reflect the views of Kansas Republicans, who, it emphasized, “elected a black chair a few months ago.”
We elected a token black guy, so we're not racist.
The Kansas GOP said it was “disgusted” by the comments and that they do not reflect the views of Kansas Republicans, who, it emphasized, “elected a black chair a few months ago.”
We elected a token black guy, so we're not racist.
I said in another thread that I worried that they weren’t speaking sardonically. Speaking that way in a setting where they intend to affect change, at that age, these people are actively and sincerely choosing to make the world a worse place for everyone.
It's just words, guys. But if you mock Charlie Kirk, then get deported, lib.
That's only because republicans 18-24, and 36-90 weren't in the chat. If they were, they would have been saying the exact same things.
Those age groups aren't kids either.
When I saw the photos, it was clear that these were losers who just never grew up.
Some of these "kids" are older than Charlie Kirk. They were literally all in the same age range and demographic. This is the modern Republican party when you don't include the old people.
How does their age excuse their behavior?
Great now "boys will be boys" is a dog whistle.
it always was for misogyny, but now it might be for fascism too
I think it was more of a euphemism for stupidity than a dog whistle for mysogyny.
"Boys will be boys" was always about getting into foolish hijinks. It has been co-opted by shitheads to excuse abhorrent behavior. And every time it happens there needs to be significant pushback from from folks to take it back from the bastards.
sadly it's hard to take back a term.
shitheads missuse the term
normal people then avoid such term
now it's a bad term
any attempt at reclaiming it will be suspicious as if someone just wants an excuse to use that word.
it's mostly a slut thing.
but with slurs it's "easier" to reclaim, as the community affected by it, can choose to use it.
in this case it's different.
Republicans always say “kid” because they always have kids on their minds because they are pedos
Vance to his credit fucks couches, not kids. He only defends people who fuck kids, like his boss.
Does he fuck kid couches though? Like there's no way this guy doesn't make love to a love seat.
Oh shit youre very right, maybe even a chair
One problem with this defense? The people in the group chat aren’t “kids.” By scanning public records and media reports, Mother Jones determined the ages of eight of the 11 participants in the chat: They appear to range from 24 to 35. Ages for three other participants—Bobby Walker, Michael Bartels, and Rachel Hope—were not publicly available. Bartels declined to comment to Politico, and the outlet could not reach Hope for comment. Walker told Politico parts of the chat “may have been altered, taken out of context, or otherwise manipulated,” adding, “The language is wrong and hurtful, and I sincerely apologize.”
This is just what leaked. The youngish adults staffing all these senators' and representatives' offices are barely any older, and are probably saying the same shit.
How would it have been better if they were kids? It'd be worse: displaying the kind of bullshit being handed down to the next generation.
They're inept, stupid, racist adults. Pray they don't teach kids to be like themselves (though I'm sure they will).
Kids at least might not be aware how dumb they are. Too many of them just say stuff like that to be edgy.
They aren't aware of the implications that if they want to gas people, other people might want to gas them.
I have to disagree. It is definitely worse that these are adults, and they are the upcoming leaders of the GOP.
Open message to Vance:
When you say kid, I think 4 to 10 years old. A tween is 11 or 12 years old. A teen is 13 to 18. Technically, a 19 year old is also a teenager, but they're also a young adult. Nobody older than that gets the 'kid' pass from me.
These people were in their 20s and 30s. They are grown-ass adults who should have responsibilities of grown-ass adults. If you say 'I love Hitler,' at any age, you get another title from me. "Shithead." And that transcends age.
Now fuck off, couch fucker.
They all looked like pathetic losers, chuds, and incels.
Hopefully they'll go to jail and learn some respect.
BTW, it's weird how peacefully protesting fascism is being called "terrorism" by these assholes. And they plan on trying to defund anyone and any group that opposes the Confederates, no matter how lawful the groups are.
Meanwhile, they downplay stuff like this.
[T]he ages of eight of the 11 participants in the chat: They appear to range from 24 to 35. Ages for three other participants—Bobby Walker, Michael Bartels, and Rachel Hope—were not publicly available.
The oldest appears to be Joe Maligno, who public records suggest is 35. In the chat, he spoke about gas chambers and used a racial slur toward Chinese people.
Annie Kaykaty, New York’s national committee member who, in response to Maligno’s comment about gas chambers, said, “I’m ready to watch people burn now,” is 28. Alex Dwyer, chair of the Kansas Young Republicans, who wrote a series of numbers used by white supremacists and wrote, “Sex is gay,” is 29; Peter Giunta, former chair of the New York State Young Republicans, who referred to Black people as “watermelon people” and “monkeys” and said, at another point, “I love Hitler,” is 31.
Chat member and supposed “kid” Samuel Douglass is a 27-year-old state senator
And by kid, did "JD" "Vance" mean anyone that is not a boomer or something?
Let’s say for the benefit of the doubt this was a chat composed entirely of children. Where did these “children” learn all that talk? As young republicans maybe from older republicans or their Republican parents. Them being actual kids would make it worse
Just a reminder that JD has three kids (actual kids, not 35 year olds) with his wife, who is a woman of color. If he won’t defend them against blatant racism, do his supporters actually think he gives a fuck about them?
Also, a good parent would take the opportunity to teach their children why what they said is wrong, not just tell them how to avoid responsibility:
Vance said he would tell his three kids—“especially my boys”—“don’t put things on the internet. Be careful with what you post. If you put something in a group chat, assume that some scumbag is going to leak it in an effort to try to cause you harm or cause your family harm.”
Our Vice President is a huge piece of shit.
His wife is just as complicit and thinks she's white adjacent enough so no sympathy for her at all.
Oh for sure, I have no sympathy for her either, she’s fully complicit. Just saying his lack of defense for his own family speaks volumes.
Well she is caucasian tbf
Its like that skit from the office, which is basically based on two real life supreme court cases. In the first one, the scotus said anyone with white skin was white regardless of origin. Then when a very light skinned Japanese guy from Hawai’i used that to argue that he was white, they said that to be white you also have to be caucasian. But simultaneously disqualified anyone who was caucasian but didnt have white skin.
The concepts of colorism really make no sense at the end of the day
Only being angry about being caught instead of remorseful about having done something wrong is narcissistic and sociopathic behavior
Wow, I hadn't seen that quote. Absolutely nothing about teaching them to not be racist pieces of shit, only to make sure not to post it online. And that the real scumbag here is the person who leaked it.
Hes a piece of shit but "don't put things on the internet" is fantastic advice for young people. I'm glad I was a kid before the Internet got "serious" so there are no logs of the heinous shit I'm sure I said. If you look for my old username, you'll get one search result...a quip I made on IRC on bash.org
Well now I want to know which one :P
If they're old enough to be part of DOGE and chainsaw the government, they're not kids.
Some of them are older than me and I remember when smartphones were invented. The oldest one in the chat is only 5 years younger than JD Vance and was older than their national hero Charlie Kirk. These aren't kids, these are the modern Republican party.
Seriously all of them are grown adults with real positions.
So this means it’s perfectly fair to take their quotes and pressure their bosses to fire them? I mean that’s what happened with people who made quotes about Charlie Kirk.
The Kansas GOP said it was “disgusted” by the comments and that they do not reflect the views of Kansas Republicans, who, it emphasized, “elected a black chair a few months ago.”
Lmao, seriously they're going with "we have black friends, actually"
I'm really afraid of this political operator becoming the president if Trump croaks prematurely. This guy is all-charade and I think there's a lot of supremacy behind it.
Well, we ALL used to be kids once upon a time. I bet these "kids" were the same assholes that I'd run into on Xbox360 pregame lobbies from time to time. Sometimes it's just one or two, sometimes you'd get lucky and load in to an entire lobby full of them. Disgusting.
Is Trump sexually attracted to any of them?
No?
Then that's correct: they're not kids.
How do you feel about 'kids' making memes about Charlie Kirk getting shot, James?
Mentally they are.
Is it really a better look if any of them are kids?
No, but it becomes less serious and they are held less accountable. If they are, in fact, serious adults with serious positions, it is much more serious.
As if Nazis dont employ the children they groom in serious positions!
While they are still children, they are more of a potential problem. Of you don't think it matters whether they are kids or adults, why do you think they are messaging it that way? Do you think it just doesn't matter to you and it does matter to others, or it doesn't matter to anyone?
If it's the first, then that should make it matter to you. The more people that take the fascist problem seriously, as it is, the more chance for resistance and change.
Absolutism and not understanding the nuance of messaging from them and others makes it harder to resist them. Comedy and accuracy are important tools against fascism. The only power is the power people give them. Remove that legitimacy and they lose the power.
Kansas Rs elected a black person? That's straight up "we can't be racist, we have a black friend" Sorry but that doesn't mean you're not racists
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