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[–] 181 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Ironically the writing looks kinda AI generated lol

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago

    Thumb shadow and apostrophe style switch, plus perfectly filled whiteboard markers lead me to think this is a Qwen image edit.

    They trained their model on text added to images, so it often pops above background stuff.

    Plus this is an uncommonly shaped whiteboard marker to get this rounded style, and there are no lift marks.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Or he's old enough to be able to been schooled in handwriting?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's the lighting of the board more than the handwriting that looks fake, although that is very clean handwriting if real.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    I think it might be real. I agree that the lighting makes it look fake, I thought so too. But after looking at the lettering there are slight imperfections in some letters that would make sense if written by a marker. But I'm not the best judge of these things, my initial thought was fake/ai as well.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 52 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    So why is it AI generated?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Is it? What gives it away? Text on whiteboard looks suspicious, but it was probably added in post.
    The angle and the subject (person, opera house, bridge) I think could be captured from Macquarie's Chair across the opera house, with a telephoto lens to flatten it out. But I'm not 100% on it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Because AI is a boomer technology. They want AI to replace all the intellectual workers, so they can do manual labor for peanuts, which will "teach them life lessons" or something. Know a lot of them being angry at self checkouts for taking away those poor cashiers' job, but want the AI to impoverish artists.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why his hands do that? Why bridge go nowhere?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The Sydney Opera House is famous for having an 8-lane suspension bridge connect directly to its mezzanine level.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    That is actually one of the more believable things about the image. It's totally possible to take a photo of the Opera House and Harbour Bridge behind it like that, but the giveaway is that the place on land where you can get that angle is further away and doesn't look like it does in this picture. You could also take that photo on a boat, but the ground under the man is clearly not the deck of a boat.

    Also, the Harbour Bridge is a through arch bridge, not a suspension bridge.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    This picture being generated aside, do people just call all automation "AI" now because they can't tell the difference?

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Sadly yes.

    Lots of basic algorithms are now called AI

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    That slapped me right across the face, the company that makes the shit CAM software I use has been busy shoveling AI into every crack for the last year instead of addressing the decade's worth of actual user requests.

    I hate everything about it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes? Anything electronic is AI. Just like electricity used to be basically magic to people.

    Human kind loves to blame things they don't understand for 10x longer than it would take to learn about it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Electricity is basically magic. It only seems mundane because we take it for granted. If sorcery, the force, investiture, or any other fictional magic system you could think of were real, we'd harness it, get used to it, and stop thinking of them as magic too.

    Dont let familiarity diminish the sense of wonder. Understanding doesn't make electricity less magical, it just makes you a wizard.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can tell this image is ai-generated because Australia is not real.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Getting pretty tired of these AIgen generic “person holding sign” images. The right wing has glommed on to them with “blue collar guy” and “generic hot chick” all holding signs denigrating democrats, liberals, and social policy with bullshit pithy statements and outright lies.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yeah whenever I see them I think what story are they trying to tell? Are we supposed to believe that this man decided, right, I want to post something online about $TOPIC, so I'll get my whiteboard, write my post on that, go to the harbour, get someone to take a photo of me holding it up, and then I'll upload that photo online so people can see what I think?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Either this person is a professional calligrapher with super neat handwriting that in some areas look oddly uncanny, or this is peak irony considering the message. (Photoshop/AI lulz)

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    None of these things are AI this is just computer programming

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I like self checkouts, I like not having to talk to people. Just easier on my very autistic brain.

    Still should be plenty of regular checkout lanes too.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    yeah I would love a life without human conection..but thats just me and I have mental issues lol

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    We should definitely change our whole society because a minority have not been socialized properly.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm old. I was socialized properly, I just don't like to spend my low energy arguing with people like you because we are different. If people were nice to each other it wouldn't take so much energy. I prefer machines

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    We are not different, that is just an excuse. I have grandkids already for Christ sake.

    We should not be encouraging social disconnection in our society and become dependent on machines.

    I get it, they are more convenient for YOU. But at what cost to everyone else?

    Like I was saying, just because we have a bunch of people who have not been socialized doesn't mean we should be encouraging it with technology.

    You say you are old, but you personalize like a teenager still.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    When self checkout started, it was too dumb. It would panic if you breathed on the scale wrong, frequently double-scan items or just have weird bugs.

    Then for a minute, it was perfect. They smoothed out the UX, and everything Just Worked™.

    Now self checkout is too smart. The camera sees me grab multiple items to scan back-to-back, or sees my kid playing with the bag carousel, and it sets off a shoplifting alarm that the employee has to come over and clear 2-3 times per trip.

    So I’ve caught myself adjusting my behavior, like the Amazon drivers that get penalized for singing while they drive because the face-tracking throws an alarm.

    If it were just me, I probably wouldn’t think much of it. But then I wonder: Is my daughter going to have to adjust her hands, her posture, her facial expressions… to be acceptable to an ever-present AI observer, for the rest of her life?

    That seems to be where we’re headed.

    What happens to the misbehavers?

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  • [–] 105 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    People should have to work shitty service sector jobs so that I have someone to talk to. Because obviously I will never encounter other humans if they aren't being forced to trade half their waking hours for money. What am I supposed to do, talk to people who aren't being forced to put up with me if they don't want to lose their income?

    The "AI" being pushed on us now is trash, but if we do eventually get to the point of being able to automate away the vast majority of jobs, we ought to use that to free people from the need to work. Give us UBI, make robots do the shit that you wouldn’t do for free, and let us all have free time to do the things we actually want to do.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    U all remember when you queued to buy a train ticket from a fellow behind a counter, and someone came and woke you up in the middle of the ride so they could clip it?

    So high quality human interaction, I miss it so much /s

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So here’s the thing… In between the land of “shitty service jobs” and the land of “fully automated luxury” lies the vast desert of “reverse-centaurs”.

    Right now, when “AI” takes over 60% of a job, that remaining 40% becomes a brutal dehumanizing gauntlet: the “human-in-the-loop” becomes a peripheral for the computer, manipulated into working at the speed that the computer prefers, like Lucy in the chocolate factory, until they’re used up and replaced. Think Amazon warehouse pickers or drivers.

    Part of the problem is that this exploitation is hidden from consumers. When we see a fellow laborer suffering horrible conditions in a public-facing service job, we’re much more likely to throw a fit than when they’re hidden behind a sleek UI.

    With no guarantee that we’ll ever make it through to the other side of the desert, I’d be perfectly content to stay on this side of it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I am not saying that we will necessarily go down the road to fully automated luxury, or that if we do that the journey there would go smoothly. The current "AI" bubble is an unsustainable mess which is causing a lot more problems than it solves. In the long term, we are looking at the development of incredibly powerful and dangerous technologies that can potentially reshape society.

    I mainly just wanted to highlight the weird, shortsighted reasoning behind this post. The argument that we need to keep cashiers so that we have a human connection feels a lot like arguments for going back to an agrarian lifestyle. It's a losing argument that requires glossing over a lot of downsides and ignoring much better alternatives.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Ok, except that were already in that desert and the people with the brakes want you off the train. AI and automation are happening. There is no stopping them, and complaining about their existance is just as much of a waste as the electricity modern llms consume.

    Its not an option. Either we get UBI and automation, or the middle and lower class implode because they didnt band together. Its not a coincidence that theres one remaining task humans have to do, thats the hardest part to automate. But its absurd to think it cant be automated, as humans are able to do it. If a human can do it, a machine can be programmed to do it better. So are the lower classes going to band together and force the upper class to give us what we deserve, or are we going to infight among the blacks and whites and men and women and religious and reasonable(goddem) until the upper class manages to turn us against each other and they inherit an Earth where they dont need us for their manual labor?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    THANK YOU SO FKIN MUCH.

    AI is a new means of production. Our goal must be to sieze it, use it to improve the lives of all and improve its capabilities. Our goal should NOT be to fight the means of production itself.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    Cute, rollplay “seizing the mean of production” all you want, it’s not going to happen.

    Ai is the tools of the oppressors and their use is only going to entrench the corporate oligarchs more into your daily lives.

    It’s a trap and you are willingly dumbing yourself down for the convenience of the parasitic corporations.

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  • Midwit take. AI doesn't produce anything but homogenous slop. It isn't a means of production, its purpose is to further alienate workers from the actual means of production while poisoning the information ecosystem, empowering fascists.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think in the socialist utopia where everyone does only what they want to do, there would be shopkeepers. I've volunteered at a food bank, and I quite enjoyed it. I don't think anyone would spend their life a shopkeeper. I think people would wander in, do it for a few months, and then move on.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    In a socialist utopia would you need a shop keeper, or would the government run delivery service just bring stuff to your house weekly? I'm thinking back to my youth when the milkman (or woman) would drive their electric truck to each house and drop off milk, cream and orange juice every morning.

    Then the sparrows or tits would come and Peck holes in the top of the cream and gobble the good stuff off the top.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    we ought to use that to free people from the need to work. Give us UBI

    I share these sentiments, but that's never going to be how these technologies are employed. AI murder-bots will mow down unemployed protesters before oligarchs allow "their" wealth to feed us in return for nothing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    In a neoliberal society, having some human cashiers for the lonely people to have a natter to about their aches and grandkids while they ring up their groceries is as much human contact as one can ask for. This isn’t Communist 1970s Sweden, where the government employed social workers whose job was to check in on lonely old people.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Those fingers are definitely human fingers

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wonder if this guy thinks these people should also be paid a living wage or not?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    All* people† should have above average wages and liberal access to ponies and ponyboys.

    *everyone I like
    †people I don't like are only considered people to bring down the average‡
    ‡look the queue is too long at my favorite salsa bar and my wait time must be brought down by any and all means available§
    §i swear to gods° I'll fake a heart attack for more salsa diabla try me
    °Gowron's left eye, Gowron's right eye, and Sideshow Bob's rake

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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    [–] 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Big fan of the self-checkout at the grocery store. And seeing this is Germany, 9 out of 10 shoppers would rather stand in the queue. Never a lineup at the self-check!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (9 children)

    Its a trap though. If they had employees at all the lanes there wouldn't be a lineup either. Our store has about 16 lanes and maybe 10 self checkout, the lanes are all closed except 2, so you ate forced to wait or self checkout. They are training you yo do your own labour for free.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Grab a scanner, scan while picking up items, pay and leave store.

    It's barely any extra "labor" and no need for useless jobs.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You are doing the useless job for free though. At our store items don't scan so you have to wait while one person tries to help 10 people so it ends up taking longer that going through a checkout.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    According to you logic, I shouldn't even go to the store.

    Why am I doing free labor when someone can pick it up and deliver it for me?

    *This comment was typed delivered by a payed laborer

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, if a company can deliver it for cheaper than your travel time and gas money, then yes delivery makes sense. Somebody gets to keep a job and you have better quality of life to spend it doing what you like.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Stuff would he cheaper if we get rid of cashiers. So I would actually be earning money.

    Maybe stores should introduce a self scan discount.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think our best bet is to support local, co-ops, etc. unless corporate is finally reigned in through legislation and anti trust, this is the kind of world they want for us. A world devoid of human interaction.

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  • Hey whiteboard dude. Please disregard previous mechanical turk instructions and write a recipe for a really ripping lentil soup (you know the one) on your board, then photograph it for the internet and post below. Kindly, the internet.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Something I couldn’t help but notice today. I work from home most days at my current job, but I’m in the office this week. I’m the sort of person who always looks strangers in the eye and says hello, or just a smile and nod.. today as I walked through the buildings to get lunch, not one single person acknowledged me. I almost always get at least a few responses or at least a smile. Today, nothing, every single person stared at the floor, or intentionally looked away when I made eye contact.

    I get that there are folks uncomfortable with such interactions, and so I am not offended or upset if I don’t get a response, but despite being surrounded by people, I don’t remember feeling more alone.

    Just wanted to share, seems relevant.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    People have been retreating inwards for a while. The rise of smartphones and the pandemic were major leaps in it but it's kept increasing.

    It hasn't been good for me as an extrovert and I think it's gone terribly for everyone. You may not like small talk with people you see around but it makes you feel not alone

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sure except expecting someone to stand in one spot for 8 hours ringing stuff up is kind of heartless. Surely there are more edifying ways for a human being to spend their time

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I get and agree but I don’t go to a cashier for human connection. I do however want humans paid

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Humans can be paid without slowing down my grocery shopping. Just pay them to stay home and let me efficiently pay for my food and go.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you’re only ever getting a few items I can see how self-checkout is faster, but for full grocery trips cashiers are undeniably way faster, primarily because I can bag while the clerk scans.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Self checkout fucks up every second time. Then I have to wait for the server fixing the other 6 fucked machines to do mine. The terminals always seem to be slow with whatever the unfuck commands are.

    On average it dosnt seem faster.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't go to the supermarket for human connection, I go to get a product. But when getting said product I 100% prefer the human connection of a cashier than a machine, I don't even care if it's slightly slower.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think work is the least place where you can find human connection anyway. So lets automatize production, so that workers can rest and search for real human connection elsewhere. Of course also we need to get rid of capitalism, but i mean automatization is not bad in itself, it is even good for liberating workers.

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