One of my favorites is how tiny pieces of lore in One Piece become major plot points later. At first, people thought it was some 5D chess foreshadowing. Nope, it turns out the lead writer just goes back and re-reads his old content when he starts running out of ideas. He’ll just grab some tiny thing from like two years ago, and turn it into the next major plot hook.
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There was that D&D dungeon master tip where the DM would ask the players what they think it was, or what their solution was, and the DM would pick their favorite answer because they didn't actually think of one.
Yeah, I know someone who gave their high level group a mysterious box that couldn't be opened by normal means.
He had nothing in mind as to what the correct solution was, he just figured they'd come up with something clever eventually. I don't think I ever found out what they did.
ULPT: this also works on your significant other.
You'll never guess where we're going tonight?
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Wow. You got it!
Unless it's all booked up and you needed tickets or reservations months in advance. Then you dead.
English teacher: "wow, look at the incredible symbolism in the camera work"
Creator: "uhhhh.... this is a documentary, and that was a video that some bloke took with his phone"
Actually saw videos of a british tourist who got stuck in Nepal during the uprising that did exactly that. Was just filming his traveling experiences when he found himself accidentally making a documentary lol
Got a link? Sounds interesting.
I remember a friend telling me their English teacher took them on a field trip to see the Poet Simon Armitage and asked him what the poem "the hitcher" represents and he just said "it's just about some bloke" - or something to that effect. Anyway it made me chuckle to imagine the dismay of the English teachers in the room
Eh, Death of the Author is a thing for a reason--we don't have to take authors' thoughts as the end of discussion about a thing. Richard Adams is quoted as saying he didn't put any meaning into Watership Down, and they were just tales for his daughters. Bradbury said that Fahrenheit 451 was mostly about people becoming isolated in society and watching too much TV rather than censorship.
Foreshadowing is utterly pointless to me because I can't remember the beginning of a novel or series in that level of detail by the time I get to the end.
I think those connections get made with multiple readings. No one is memorizing 400 pages and match small details to later events on a first read.
Yeah the goodies only shows when you read it a second time, especially when the manga is like bi-monthly or monthly, no one gonna remember something 10 chapters away which could be anything between 5 to 10 months.
Sometimes something sticks out, like a Chekhov's gun, and you're just waiting for it to make it's way back into the story. Not all of the small details, obviously. But you can pick up some things on a single read through that you expect to come back into play.. even if you have a horrible memory.
Maybe, but then I've got better things to do than reread or rewatch things...
Other than people suggesting second reading, foreshadowing can be good for people who like to speculate/investigate the media they read/watch. The foreshadowing acts as clues.
Foreshadowing doesn't have to be subtle.
Did you play BioShock?
Did you ever notice the phrase "Would you kindly?" Did you ever think about >!spoilers!<?
Just because a writer isn't consciously aware of doing it intentionally doesn't mean it wasn't part of the process that happened in their brain
Writing start to finish vs writing the end and going backwards.
First is all about having characters and just seeing what they do in a situation the author throw's them into. Not great for having a good ending unless you are really clever, lucky, or willing to just keep writing until you naturally hit a solid end point. However, it is good for having memorable characters usually and can enable an excellent hook or high concept.
The opposite, where you write the ending and work backwards in time, usually ensures a high quality plot but can risk making character's flat or uninteresting unless you put in a ton of extra work to make sure they're interesting or fleshed out. And also can make it difficult to hook readers and might result in a more mundane/average overall concept.
Okay, but it's a pet peeve of mine when a show shows me something about a character and then it's immediately relevant. Feels a bit forced, I'd like at least a 20 minute break
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