A good New York Times piece on Portland nevertheless demonstrates how the conventions of objective reporting fail to accurately capture the bad faith driving pro-Trump propaganda.

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[–] 121 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Given how often headlines claim that Maga has imploded, melted down, or been slammed, one would think that nothing would be left of it by now—but unfortunately, none of this has any consequences.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    New Republic is a tabloid. As are Newsweek and Raw Story, which are all uncritically posted to this community multiple times a week.

    They’re tabloids that often appeal to my political sympathies, but tabloids nonetheless. We shouldn’t treat them like real journalism. If I had my way they’d be banned and/or ignored on Lemmy.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel like MAGA just runs half molten down by design at this point

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    As with most authoritarian groups, I think that Maga is primarily driven by fear: on the one hand, fear of the fictional enemies that their demagogues constantly conjure up (foreigners, Antifa, etc.) and, on the other hand, fear of retaliation by their own people or exclusion from the sect if a Maga follower dares to express even the slightest criticism of the leaders of this idiotic movement.

    Only the second threat, i.e., fear of persecution by their own people, is justified, because it actually stems from reality. This allows for the control of both the foot soldiers, whose interests are of course not represented by the leadership at all, and the higher-ranking members, who actually benefit directly from the sellout of the US through nepotism and, in particular, corruption.

    Now that their leader is in office, it is difficult to say what role the fictional enemy images still play. I think the fear of their own people now prevails by a long shot.

    One example that suggests this is the fact that during the election campaign, the MAGA leadership propagated the conspiracy theory of child molesters in influential positions. Now that the election has been won, this topic is being avoided at all costs. The reason is clear: there is some truth to this conspiracy theory—but contrary to what the MAGA leadership has portrayed this ominous group of evil, it is obviously the conservatives themselves who are the child abusers, who are this ominous group of infuencial criminals. This should also have become clear to many MAGA supporters by now, as the administration is, for obvious reasons, doing everything in its power to prevent the announced prosecution of Eppstein's customers and partners from taking place.

    Now, however, MAGA supporters are too afraid of being targeted by their own people if they demand that the election promise be fulfilled and insist that the influential child abusers finally be stopped, because that would mean making enemies of the MAGA leadership, who are obviously the ones responsible.

    So in short, I think Maga is now mainly operating on the basis of fear of persecution by its own people—as was already the case with the Nazis in the Third Reich. So it's quite the traditional Nazi strategy really.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    That last bit of "This is nothing like what it's like at night. It's really bad!"

    Oh my god princess. They're blasting music and dancing in inflated costumes. For fuck sake, talk about snowflakes.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Is this whole administration going to turn out to just be a Family Guy skit culminating in Peter fighting that giant chicken again? 🤔

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Rooting the fuck out of that chicken to win decisively.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    As an Australian this sentence made me do a double take.

    You'll do WHAT to the chicken?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Im more suprised that you didnt double take about the US trying to fight a giant bird (and losing).

    <3 love our friends from the land down under, that history bit is just so funny.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    🤣 I very much appreciate you Aussies!

    Had the pleasure to visit Sydney, Cairns (specifically Trinity Beach), and swim in the Great Barrier Reef last year. I love your country, how clean it is, and how awesome all the locals were.

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    MAGA “implodes” over just about anything.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    But do they actually?

    Honestly, it seems like the only 'source' for any of these "MAGA in shambles!" stories are just a few angry posts on Twitter or whatever. By and large, the MAGAts (besides a few notable exceptions like MTG) appear to be as happy and as united as ever.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago*

    They’re beautiful fantasies painted with colorful language, but lack any substance. Great for clicks, not quite as good for measuring the state of reality. That’s what the internet is now, just click farming

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Did you forget about cracker barrel already?

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I think what is happening is the reluctance of associating the term influencer with propagandist. The terms themselves are synonymous, influencer a little more specific, and without the added negative connotations propagandist has. If people realized “influencer” is just another term for propagandist, that may harm ad revenue. So we have “distinctions” being made, between influencers who do regular propaganda and influencers who do bad propaganda or “influencer propaganda” instead of just admitting they are all by definition propagandists.

    Propaganda is the expression of opinions or actions carried out deliberately by individuals or groups with a view to influencing the opinions or actions of other individuals or groups for predetermined ends and through psychological manipulations.

    Propaganda, Jacques Ellul

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    If the "maga" didn't have their brains completely pickled by being steeped in racism, propaganda from hate radio and Faux, they should double over in laughter like all normal humans did.

    Side note: I wonder if her animal-killing instincts (because according to her, if you live the rural life, you are a psychopath just like her. That's just "rural life" or something, lol.) weren't telling her to race down there and choke that chicken...

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh yeah, look at Secretary Noem bravely staring down the violent mob, in a chicken suit playing the Benny Hill theme song, an antifa anthem representing chaos and disorder.

    https://xcancel.com/BoLoudon/status/1975665503759966258

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    You know, I kinda see now the point on why super heroes wear costumes. With their identities protected, they feel more powerful. I would feel invulnerable staring down on Noem while wearing a chicken suit.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    She's so exposed. I'm just waiting for her to get domed in playing sight with the police.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    It's "in plain sight", as in, very easily visible.

    And no, I'm not calling you an AI. A clanker would have known the difference.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    For all intensive purposes, it doesn't matter. Case and point, I understood fine.

    No need to call out a clanker as an escape goat.

    Ultimately it's all a moo point.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Autistic much? It's a typo. Bravo. Clearly nobody knew what was up. But thank you for the lesson.

    Maybe you're the clanker, lacking in ability to read the context and understand somebody might have made a typo.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I'd love to read the article without a pay wall.

    Yes, I could take the time to look for the archive, but if OP couldn't be bothered, neither can I.

    I highly doubt anything is "imploding". More likely MAGA is just ignoring the stupid aspect of the stunts.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    I stopped reading at the part where they say provocateur is the wrong word and how using the wrong word diminishes the overall piece.

    After all, these people are not propagandists. They don't spread hate as a means to an end. Hate and xenophobia is not a tool in their arsenal. It's not a "take it or leave it" proposition.

    It's crazy to paint maga as a bunch of calculated leaders who only care about procedural theories and abstract policy, and it's just their followers who believe the hype.

    And because the author used the wrong word I guess that means this article is overall worse for it.

    Edit: and the aggressive headline! I guess if their editor used the wrong words then the article must be worse than I thought.

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