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[–] 50 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

Luke used to do some dangerous piloting in canyons, so he was already doing crazy piloting even though he wasn’t being shot at.

Also, TG:M is the ANH trench run. Not even trying to hide it.

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    [–] 66 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Example A is a chosen one story (magic powers make him "better"), example B is an experience+skill beats skill story, and from watching "fighter pilot reviews" of the movie that was one aspect they said rings true, someone who was a fighter pilot that long would have had so much more time to develop a high level of skill.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Luke is also a skilled pilot and an excellent shot. And the movie never establishes how experienced his squadmates are, nor can we just assume they are all highly trained since they are part of a cobbled together resistance and not a traditional military. And the only thing he does better than the others is hit the target. His survival wasn't because he was better, it was because he was the last one left to make the suicide run, and because he was rescued at the last minute.

    Oh, and let's not forget that he never could have done it without the wise old mentor. You know, the guy from a previous generation that fought in a great war. The guy who passes on ancient wisdom and who is the only reason look was able to make the shot. Not exactly something that fits the "Our generation is the awesomest" picture the post is trying to paint.

    Also, Star Wars came out in 1977, not 1970.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    from watching "fighter pilot reviews" of the movie that was one aspect they said rings true

    I'm gonna assume every other aspect of the movie does not ring true because that movie was so bad compared to the first Top Gun. There's a big list of stuff that doesn't make sense.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    it was a huge propaganda piece for the military so much so, it drove up enlistments last year"fullfilled thier qouta" it was coming from "the main military. com site"

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  • Pretty much everything on TV and cinema related to military is for that reason. JAG also had this effect for like 10 straight years. And it actually kept the lights on in some cases as well, when the ratings werent the best. Hell, I wonder how many people joined the Navy after growing up watching Star Trek TNG?

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    [–] 55 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    That's how I feel about Nobody, the action movie with Bob Odenkirk. A 59 year old beating up a bus of young punks, such a power fantasy, but it's just so hard to believe.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I like the one in Secondhand Lions. Similar theme. Perhaps more believable.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So is pretty much every movie, mate. The point is to make it believable as you possibly can, without tipping over into farce. You can believe that an experienced fighter can beat an inexperienced one. Thats not an issue. The issue, for me anyway, usually comes when they take a hit. Thats usually when I start blowing big watery farts at the screen. See also small women beating up massive built dudes. Like The Woman King, seeing 50something Viola Davis taking haymakers from 25 year old heavy weight like they are nothing. Each punch enough to knock just about anyone on the planet out cold.

    John Wick is another one. The gun play and stuff is fun, but as a tactical exercise, John Wick regularly gives up good cover for more sensational action shots that should have gotten him killed a million times over. The trick is making it fun. If you can do that, the audience forgives any bullshit. If you cant make it fun, the audience will nitpick it to fuck.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    John Wick is always safe because offscreen enemies with guns have to run into frame and engage him at close range. It’s like videogames rules - like how the mobs form into concentric circles and attack you one at a time from the inner ring.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah I feel like movies in general wayyyyy downplay how bad taking a full force bare-knuckle punch right to the chin is. Irl you're very likely getting knocked out and also whoever threw the punch has a good chance of breaking their hand.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I always thought ANH doesn't do the best job of conveying the passage of time so it seems like Luke just integrates with this rebel squadron randomly in like an hour.

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  • They were last generation to inherit wealth, so they are the target audience

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Boomers all think they're the main character

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Everybody thinks GenX are Boomers.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Everyone is falling for the "lets turn different age groups against each other instead of fixing actual problems" thing

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    They fell for the ploy and entrenched us in the cycle before we had a chance to speak about it, and presently are obstructing the fixing of actual problems, problems that are a result of their negligence.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    It’s because they’ve been right about that their entire lives.

    They’re called Boomers beause they’re the largest generation. Being the largest generation means that you’re the generation with the most purchasing power, the most cultural cache, and the most voting power. Corporations, the media, and political parties have spent the past 50-60 years making the Boomers the foundation of their strategy.

    The whole of mainstream society has been telling the Boomers for their entire lives that they’re the most important people in society.nIt’s only now that they’re dying off in a significant way that this strategy is starting to fail.

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  • s/1970/1977
    s/2025/2022

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wait, did tom cruise drop the bomb in the new movie? I thought he was just the teacher on the ground?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nope he literally teaches the young pilots how to do the mission perfectly then at the end he goes “fuck it” I’ll do it myself and almost get myself killed for no reason.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I assume you meant "himself" but I am amused by the idea that Tom Cruise's character nearly kills a single member of the viewing audience, in real life, as part of the movie's climax for unexplained reasons.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Everyone can relate to an underdog

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    problem is, you need the underdog to actually fail at least once

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    So many things out right now where the protagonist's superpower is being old and tough/wise. And all the opponents are "young upstarts/punks"

    "The old man" probably a but on the nose.

    Tulsa King, Yellowstone etc

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Independence Day did it better, than Tom Cruise at least.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Anon can't tell time.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Top gun is a horrible movie

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