They can, yes. It is worth noting that some recipients were convicted for various "crimes" in their home countries, such as the Chinese human rights activist who won it in 2010.
Plus, five words: Henry Fucking War Criminal Kissinger. 1973.
They can, yes. It is worth noting that some recipients were convicted for various "crimes" in their home countries, such as the Chinese human rights activist who won it in 2010.
Plus, five words: Henry Fucking War Criminal Kissinger. 1973.
I lost what little faith I had in the Nobel Peace Prize when Obama won it — and I liked Barack Obama, I voted for him both times, but I didn't think "up and coming politician"/"first Black president" really qualified him, and the general feeling around the time was "well we hope he does good for peace in the world." So... you give him a prize that is probably better suited to someone else, hoping he does what you want in the future?
Regarding Trump being a felon, I'm more concerned that we don't let felons vote, but we'll let a felon be president. Make that make sense.
If people like Obama and Kissinger can win a Nobel Peace Prize, the prize is meaningless.
Obama got it before the drone bombings. It was more of a hope kinda thing but the hope didn't turn out that great. And really just indirectly led us to vaguely gesture around
Obama not fighting for his Supreme Court appointment is a lot more than indirectly responsible for all of this. He abdicated his duty to execute the office and fucked us all in doing so.
Ah, we’re to “blame Obama for this” instead of blaming the senators who outright refused to look at Supreme Court Justices for a year.
Look, I'm not going to say Obama is blameless, but come on man. You're kind of victim blaming here.
Mitch McConnell and the GOP are responsible.
Also, sure, Merrick Garland would have been better than what we ended up with, but how much better really? We all saw how Garland handled Jan 6 and Trump as AG.
Disagree about the EU. Europe has had so many wars, and the EU managed to get the nations talking and trading. It has done lots for peace but its hard to measure wars that don't happen.
They're supposed to not qualify for high office either so probably these days. Asking for a friend?
In the US at least, the constitutional requirements for being elected to the presidency do not prevent felons from being elected, and there are good arguments for this. A weaponized judicial system can be used to oust or prevent political opponents from gaining the presidency.
Yeah, we're just supposed to have an informed populace and a functioning electoral college to prevent the actual bad criminals from taking control.
Funnily enough, he DOES qualify for a jail cell. 34 times actually.
Considering the reason why the prize exist at all was to help Nobel with his guilt over the invention of dynamite. Pretty much anyone can get the prize.
Ao you’re saying if they feel guilty about rape they can get the prize?
The Nobel prize itself was created to downplay atrocities for fame, so yes, you can get it no matter what.
It's fulfilling it's goal.
Yes
It's not very different from John bonomassa being named best guitarist by rolling stone
Who?
Exactly.
Can? Sure. Should? No.
It's worthwhile remembering though that the people who get it aren't all saints. Although rape and sexual assault are particularly distasteful items to have on the resume, if the person repented and then contributed meaningfully to lasting world peace, they shouldn't automatically be stricken off the list.
So those admittedly distastefully liberal guidelines should exclude any current resident of the White House then.
I think they should ignore any person who is so publicly thirsty for it. It's a prize you get, not one you ask for.
It's unnerving having to read that the US ally Norway feels like they need to prepare for retaliatory tariff action if the independent committee for the award, that only ended up in Oslo by a quirk of Scandinavian history, doesn't award the prize to 47. Sad.
of course they can, Nelson Mandela won one, and he was famous for his time in prison
A felon just means someone who broke the law, akaik. Law != morality.
I think the point you might have missed is, a conviction shouldn't exclude you from receiving a prize, because you may have been convicted by a corrupt court.
I'm not saying Trump was wrongly convicted, just that a conviction shouldn't exclude you in and of itself.
These two are things are not the same
I think you missed the point. Both were illegal at the time. Both led to convictions. Hell, hiding Jews in Germany was illegal during the holocaust. What is moral and what is legal don’t always align.
Want to go take a deep breath, realign your chakras and reread OPs comment?
‘Cause I literally replied with a convicted felon (Nelson Mandela) that was awarded the Nobel peace prize
Would it be easier if I provided another example? Liu Xiaobo was in a jail cell when he was awarded the Nobel peace prize
There are no qualifiers for the person being nominated. As long as someone who qualifies as a nominator nominates them. The nominator will not be revealed until at least 50 years have passed.
It's the reason a felon can take office in the government. Otherwise, it would be easy to "convict" someone you considered a threat.
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