They care after the fact but they dont understand and are hostile to the idea of trying to.

I think the problem I'd that they're sold on the idea if simple/easy being the highest version of technology, that frictionless and smoothe is better than empowering or secure.

Its the pitch that got them to pick up smart phones, after all. And that's what needs to change.

Yeah they’re built on top of open source anyways… yet they pretend projects like chrome or android would’ve never happened without them. They’re the ones freeloading off of open source and claiming it… and except for pixel they don’t build the devices we use, so fk them and their predatory practices…

Google wants to monopolize installing programs on your phone.

There. That should make them cower in fear.

"Installing independent apps"

Stuff like this is why i daily-drive Linux for over a year now; windows 10 only exists in a VM for stuff that refuses to work (i use this VM about once or twice per month for an hour or so). Originally i just didn't want ads in my start menu, preventing a local user would have sped up the switch to instant instead of 2 weeks.

Yeah but users are dumb. This happens constantly. Microsoft starts with a switch so users can disable something unwanted, then they remove the switch.

The annoying part of actually the dumb users who defend bad behavior with "you can turn it off", keeping people on the software instead of making meaningful changes to Linux or something else.

Of the changes listed in that article, which do you think are scummy? It wasn't clear from the link you dropped.

Yes, I did read it. I'm asking you to explain how it supports your opinion.

Literally bought a new phone just so I could have a work phone with standard Android and my phone, with Google ripped out at the root level. (Also ripped out the dedicated ai button software)

At this point I just want a tiny palmtop Linux computer like one of those GPDs, or what the Open Pandora / Fira? was supposed to be, so I can do actual tiny computer things.

And just keep a "smartphone" to blend in with normies and survive in society at a basic level.

I'm so sick and tired of having to hunt down some super specific (but hopefully popular enough for developers) SoC phone hardware that's probably only sold in Europe anyway, so I can put a decent OS on it, which requires a whole weekend of steps because the hardware manufacturer doesn't want you to, and it's all good and dandy

"Except the camera doesn't work and Bluetooth will randomly die."

...Just to sidestep the ever present corpo-government panopticon trying to 24/7 beam the ad-verse directly into your brain.

My first iPhone 3GS was so exciting at first, so was my first Android I could put Cyanogen on. Now I hate these stupid manifest-landfill bricks because they're so adversarial to human well being.

I just wish it didn't require some absolute miracle of moved mountains to get some hardware that belongs to whomever buys it, instead of being black-boxed and booby-trapped to shit "Because screw you, that's why." Because The Market(TM) became about indebting and mining, instead of just selling a thing.

Agh! Sorry for the rant.

(Sent from my Motorola Stylus because they'll at least unlock the boot loader if you ask nicely and I can use my SD card and drawing on it is neat.)

Always has been ;) E.g. my parents are rocking LOS+microg since forever, they have no idea what adb, fastboot, flashing, partitions, rom, root etc mean.

And if you get the right device it'll take you literally two minutes to install. But installing ANY operating system is just something the average Joe doesn't do today, so help people out or get yourself some help the first time. Same with Linux on desktops.

Followup question: what alternative do people with locked bootloaders who don't want to get a new phone have?

I just bought a phone earlier this year before I heard the news, and I planned on keeping it for the next four years, given that it's a brand new, high-end flagship device. I don't plan to sell. I don't want to sell. It's the best phone I've ever had!

Sorry OOTL on this. Does that mean auth won’t be local, that users won’t be able to work offline?

Preventing their creation on newly installed computers. No workaround as of now.

No, you just need a MS account to install windows now. Then you can go back to your local accounts.

They're just offscreen taking your wallet.