For context, the IOF tortured Greta. Proudly bragging about dragging her on all fours across the ground to kiss the Zionists' flag.

I. Am. Tired.

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[–] 91 points 1 year ago (13 children)

And you just know she will be on the next flotilla she is able to.What a couragous young lady.

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  • [+] -100 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Unpopular opinion and I don't care but I'm tired of confusing courage with idiocy.

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  • [–] 73 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    If you find someone trying to stop a brutal regime starving and killing children idiotic,i think it says a lot about a lot about your personal morals and lack of empathy.

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  • [+] -73 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Shes raising awareness across the world of the illegal and atrocious acts of Israel.

    Shes doing a lot, shes in the news and changing peoples mind about the conflict the world over.

    What have you done to try and save a genocided population?

    That's right, fucking nothing except try and make edgy, uninformed comments on the internet as if you're special. You're not special, not even a little, because you are a small person at the end of the day.

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  • [–] [S] 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    More than you're doing, you waste of human material. Eat shit and choke.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    What I’ve learned: People that are amid changing their mind tend to be quiet.

    That means change, and the effects of nonviolent action, are often hard to see; especially when Israel/Russia is writing thousands of rage bait bot scripts announcing online “Good! Make that Hamas traitor kiss that flag!” to make themselves seem popular.

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    Yet another war crime

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I wish I had an ounce of her bravery and integrity, she always stands for what she speaks. I wish her well, the IDF and the genocidal Israeli government is a pitch dark chapter in human history.

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    [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)

    desert New Jersey

    Eh? NJ is extremely diverse, and to compare it to an ethnostate is pretty ignorant.

    Edit: Apparently I'm the problem here. My bad 🙄

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (28 children)

    Size comparison, bud.

    Edit from the problem here; OP forgot his meds and let a stupid straw break a camel's back that let through a lot of pent up shit- I'll better clarify below, but no one was crazy but me.

    First things first, I'm sorry for popping off-- Had my hands in too many discussions at once and aimed poorly in the process. Feel free to dislike me (it's justified), but I can honestly say there's no beef here from me with anyone that isn't supporting genocide.

    Next, I had no idea so many people took potshots at Jersey, so I'll keep that in mind going forward. 'Desert New Jersey' comes from I think Hasan mentioning how wild it was that all this war criming is coming from such a relatively small place in the world and it stuck as an internal censor for Israel. I absolutely don't think ~10mil actual people in the state are like the cultists, so I'm sorry about that misunderstanding, too.

    All that said, I don't dirty delete so my shame will remain there and I will go smoke a bowl and try not to cause any stupid altercations for the rest of my weekend. Be safe and fuck Zion.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    NJ gets shit on all the time, so I assumed that this is what that was.

    Well obviously that's not clear, and I imagine there's a large chunk of the ~10 million people living in NJ who wouldn't appreciate the comparison.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    As a resident of the state, yeah I assumed we were getting shit on again for some reason. I’ve never once heard this size comparison before.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As someone who lives an entire ocean and then half a continent away, I also thought people were shitting on NJ again because even I'm aware of NJ being a literal meme. I remember even HIMYM gave it a lovingly joking "ew Jersey" vibe when one of Ted's girlfriends lived there.

    I literally know nothing else about your joke other than the fact that the rest of the US memes about it. And that Weehawken is supposedly an OK place to live if you work in Manhattan?

    I mean yes, I also know that The Sopranos took place there, but the setting felt pretty generic to me. I know NYC is known for the mafia families and it seems likely that that would've transferred over to Jersey as well, but nothing about the show ever screamed "this could only happen here" lol

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah NJ mostly became a meme because New Yorkers and Philadelphians love to make fun of it despite coming to our beaches in the summers in droves. The Jersey Shore show didn’t help with our image, but again, 3/4 of the people on that show are out of staters. NJ had no more of a mob problem than NY or Philly, and most of the mob has been neutered across the board. Government corruption still very much a problem in the state though.

    There’s lots of nice places to live that are relatively easy to get into Manhattan from along the Hudson. Hoboken is my favorite.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ugh the Jersey Shore people never felt like real people, the show obviously found some of the worst around lol. What the hell is a Snooki even

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  • [+] [S] -23 points 1 year ago (16 children)

    This is what it's like dealing with y'all "ACHEWUALLY" fuckin goombas when we're dealing with a group that controls and censors like 80% of social media NOT EVEN INCLUDING BOTFARMS.

    It's very fucking clear I'm not talking about the ~10 million people in the US - You want to argue semantics? Go elsewhere for it.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (15 children)

    What does this have to do with leftism? You straight up compared an entire US state to a genocidal ethnostate. Sorry that raised some eyebrows.

    It's not fucking clear at all. You called Israel "Desert New Jersey." You are the only one who immediately goes to "size"

    You could have just said, "I can see why you would have interpreted it that way, my bad"

    Fucking weirdo.

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  • [+] [S] -24 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Forgive me for not holding your hand through every sentence and syllable while my other inboxes are full of threats of violence and reminders that the US camps will come for me next, 'fucking weirdo'- Perhaps you'd like a step by step next time OR like the other people in this SAME THREAD you can see that it's simple manner of skirting the horseshit.

    Any other minor fucking problems with a shit post you'd like to complain about? The font I use to skirt the bots, maybe? Didn't get the spacing to your liking? Was my grammar not up to par for you?

    I need notes so that my 'one dude doing what he can as the world turns to shit' act doesn't lose any of its prestige.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    OK bud. Have a nice day.

    I think you need to reconsider who you're actually angry at. Your response above, with the meme, is not normal.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    The person you’re responding to, and these memes, aren’t interested in discussing anything.

    Things don’t need to make sense. They just have to be provocative and engage people.

    The intent is to normalize their message through the lens of things we can kinda agree on. Idk if they expected anyone to not want to dunk on NJ, because their prop sheet says we like to dunk on NJ.

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  • [–] [S] -2 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Hey, I may be a lot of things (specifically terrible at social interaction and emotional regulation under stress) but I am not some fuckin' shill with a script, pal. A script would actually avoid this kind of dense shit on my part.

    Also, who the hell is running so many campaigns against New Jersey that you think a prop sheet would specify focusing on New Jersey?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Can I say something to you? Something I've learned in life is to see when you are wrong. Step back, take a breathe and look at what you said. Multiple people are giving you a reason why what you said might be taken wrong. Hell, you have even more downvotes.

    It's okay to be wrong, dude. We're not right wing nut jobs who will hold it against you. Calm down, and think about it. You could've easily said, "My bad, I wasn't trying to offend anyone." And accepted the L. But now you look like a jackass.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I agree- you just caught me as I was coming back from the cool off. I edited my initial dumbass comment above with an apology, and I'm off to smoke a bowl to finish cooling off.

    I'm an idiot, but I try to be a stand up idiot at least.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Good on you man for calming yourself and taking a moment to reflect. It takes practice to get better at it. Therapy can be surprisingly helpful at giving you tools to help if that's something you would consider.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Oh, I wasn't being entirely facetious when I said OP forgot his meds- It's been a hell of a week/month/season/year and ya boy got goldfish brain. Everyone should have a therapist though, even if they aren't potentially coo coo bananas.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Dude, there's a ton of that. Alot of people aren't a fan of Jersey, so its easy to conflate that.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    ... Is it like leftover hate from Snooki? I just thought it was like an "across the river" type beef between NYC/NJ whenever I see Jersey smack talkin'.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh no, I recently went to Jersey for a concert and I had multiple family members ask me why 'cause its dirty'.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Every day my hope for our species dims a little more. 🫠💀 That's such a goofy way to think about another state- as if the whole country isn't just a big mess.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hitler just nodding and smiling from the outhouse of hell.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Why the fuck are you defaming New Jersey by comparing it to Israel?

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Apologies, I promise it wasn't intended as a slight against the state but as a method I use to dodge censors about the cult. I dug a bit deeper to make sure I wasn't talking out of my ass (as I couldn't recall exactly where the size correlation in my brain came from) and it does turn out it comes from a Netanyahu quote not a talking head as I'd initially thought.

    On June 13, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that an Iranian nuclear strike on Israel would be like "10,000 tons of TNT falling on a country the size of New Jersey."

    Since October 2023, Israel has dropped an estimated 70,000 tonnes of explosives on Gaza – an area about 1.6% the size of New Jersey.

    https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/artc-netanyahu-justifies-israeli-strike-on-iran-we-refuse-to-be-victims-of-a-nuclear-holocaust

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Israel’s defenders like to bring up about how they’re such a weak country “smaller than New Jersey” and therefore need tens of billions of dollars of US aid.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If Israel is desert New Jersey, what does that make Delaware?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    The ICJ ordered humanitarian aid to be let into Gaza 21 fucking months ago.

    The Sumud flotilla was doing the job of the international community.

    Israel broke international law by stopping the aid, by intercepting them in international law (piracy) and of course by using starvation as a weapon as well as the countless horrors it inflicts on civilians. Yet there is not a peep about this from corporate media, let alone the governments of the nationals of the flotilla who undertook this phenomenal act of courage and did nothing to protect them from Zionist fascists.

    Enough is enough.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Every moment we dont glass that shit hole is another atrocity we are complicit in.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Glassing is not a solution. You drop a bomb and make sand into glass but you haven't actually changed the regime. You haven't changed who does and does not have power. You haven't changed who is considered human or less than. You haven't changed what the public of that country thinks. You haven't changed much of anything.

    Boycotting is effective. It worked on South Africa. It worked in many other cases. It needs critical mass. It needs a sufficient portion of the relevant population to participate. Anyone who could buy an Israeli product and does not because of what they are doing in Gaza is making change. Anyone who refuses to participate in international events because Israel is there is making change. Anyone who refuses to perform in Israel is making change.

    Saying "glass them" feels good, it feels cathartic and just and right. It is not right. It doesn't work. It is morally faulty. Glassing Israel or part thereof would be the beginning of a much larger war, killing many more people. It would escalate existing conflict into something somehow even larger. It is understandable you would want to say it, but it does not actually make the world better. Maybe there is nothing you personally can do to make the world better in this case, and if so that sucks. But you don't have to make the world worse because you can't make it better.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    killing them all wouldn't solve anything–only voting with our wallets can save these people. Any day now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I agree that this has gone on too long, like insanely way way way too long. This has been a genocide for decades but the international community has been very slow and weak in their reactions to anything from Israel and have allowed truly reprehensible things to go unpunished.

    As for the any day now thing, yeah, it is starting to have an impact. Pressure is building fairly rapidly compared to the past decades and now Israel is being ostracised in many spaces. People are refusing to participate if Israel is welcomed, just like what happened to SA. Israeli products are not being purchased, just like with SA. Recognition of this as a genocide has been increasing, just like the recognition or apartheid in SA. Statehood for Palestine is being recognised by a bunch more countries, including allies of the USA which has previously managed to protect Israel from this, and this is again similar to the kinds if political change around SA at the end of apartheid.

    Is this the same as SA? No. Are there similarities? Yes, absolutely. I'm not saying this is all good and any day now it will all flip. I am saying the likelihood of change within 6 months has never been as high as now.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Right, because the only thing that can stop a bad mass slaughter is, of course, the good mass slaughter - a concept that totally makes sense

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm largely a pacifist, but yes, the only thing that will stop Israel is overwhelming force.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Regime change. Peaceful would be best.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's never going to happen.

    The only thing that stops this war is if Palestine gets their hands on a nuke. Mutually-assured destruction would force peaceful international intervention.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You think Palestine somehow becoming a nuclear power is more likely than the possibility that a globally condemned far right government that relies on foreign aid would undergo regime change?

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    They're committing genocide; I don't think killing them is necessarily good, but its moral cost is precisely zero, the value if their lives is not and should not be a cobsideration, and ending them all very quickly would stop the problem.

    If you care more about the genociders than the people theyre exterminating literally right now then you are a monster.

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  • [+] -27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    If anyone thinks Lemmy is actually a bastion of “leftists” instead of a deliberate radicalization campaign attempting to disguise itself as “leftist progressivism” then I’d like to sell them this bridge I have in my back yard.

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    [+] -30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    No way, you get treated like a terrorist for trying to break a blockade in a war zone, who could have guessed. Israel has been surprisingly merciful, comparedtoo what would have happened in any other war zone everywhere in the world Especially disgusting was that rogue MPs from various European countries were released immediately

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    It's not legal to blocade international waters or the territorial waters of other places, especially to prevent humanitarian aid when there's a war. The flotilla didn't enter Israeli waters. Under maritime law, what the Israeli navy did was piracy and kidnapping.

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