It’s okay, Windows 10 will be the last version of Windows you’ll need!!!
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- Windows 7 was used to browse more web pages on a subset of sites that use the Statcounter plugin, and mostly in one area of the world.
But that doesn't make a good headline.
Could it be that something is spoofing a Win7 signature?
I personally just edited the registry to stop my Win10 upgrading to 11. If it fails, it's Manjaro time.
Manjaro might not be the best starting point tbh. So many better choices.
It's not that I'm disagreeing with you. I'm just not agreeing with you.
I personally think that (as unpopular an opinion as it may be) Flatpak's largely make the choice of first distro irrelevant. The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software. Or with Mint/Ubuntu/etc... you either risk adding random repos to your sources list or you use older versions of the software.
Either way, you run the risk of a new person mucking up their system with a bad repo or a bad aur package.
The alternative, using flatpaks, largely solves both issues for when you need newer versions of a certain software, and are dead simple to install/remove/update, etc...
And I say this as someone who was super skeptical of flatpak's for a very very long time.
The weakness in Manjaro is that you either risk using the AUR or stay on old versions of the software.
That is part of it yes. But Manjaro has so many other things specially new users will not expect and know how to fix, It is not a great starting point as they claim it is. From DDOS'ing the AUR to forcing users to rollback time because they let ssl certificates expire. their are many things they dont do right and for new users this can be a major turn of when they are hit with these issues. for a distro aiming to be arch but user friendly. And the user doesn't have to do anything weird for these things to happen just use your system as you would no AUR and update and break the system. this has happened so often with Manjaro that i would steer away from it unless you know how to manually fix those breakages. but at that point just use arch.
If you disable TPM in your bios, W11 won't install, nor update if it is already installed.
Still, it's unusual for that to happen.
Thanks Microsoft spokesman.
Why is it that these scores are taken at face value until a corporation doesn't like them? What you think 4% of a random set of servers suddenly started using Windows 7 to bot pages to drum up Windows 7 support?
Look at the data: https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/asia/#monthly-202408-202509
Or more specifically https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/singapore/#monthly-202408-202509
All the data is nice and smooth, slow rises or declines, as usual.
And then all of a sudden in July and only ins Singapore, Windows 7 goes from <2% to 92%. All other asian countries stay about the same.
Does this sound likely to you that 90% of users uninstall Win10 and Win11 in Singapore to install Win7 and all that in a span of just two months?
Or is it more likely that there's some bug (or some botnet) causing false stats?
Possibly from people booting up 15 year old laptops to see if they‘re still running so they can install linux on them before trying it on the big machine. Yes, this is my made up narrative but I believe that more than in a Win7 comeback.
This is almost certainly a sampling error.
https://gs.statcounter.com/windows-version-market-share/desktop/singapore/#monthly-202408-202509
Win7 grows in Singapore from <2% to 92% within two months. All other asian countries stay the same. Yeah, that's a sampling error.
It makes me a bit sad that there is a whole article on a (very likely) mirage
One caveat here: Statcounter provides no explanation for this unusual surge, so these figures should be treated with a certain amount of skepticism. Could there be a measurement error involved?*
I don’t get why people prefer to go to an unsafe version of windows instead of trying Linux. Nowadays there is many friendly distro.
Lack of education and training really.
I only knew of Linux because I saw some dude use Linux in 2012. And then a few years later, I finally decided to try it out as it was easier for work. After a lot of false starts, I finally started switching around 2021.
Going to imagine most people are the same - get experience from it and then have a reason to use it daily.
They feel more at home with it. And they shouldn't be told how to use anything. Windows NT, were it cleared from all the mess, would be a very fine OS.
Or maybe something like AmigaOS or Haiku.
It's a demand that Linux doesn't fulfill, some sort of rebirth of Amiga could.
Its so dumb. Linux is the only way to actually get out from under the thumb of Microsoft and its so easy these days to switch.
Linux is the only way to actually get out from under the thumb of Microsoft
Aside from macos, bsd, ChromeOS, android, iOS, and templeos, sure.
within the past month? what all these people in Asia suddenly found a stockpile of machines with Win7 on them and all, collectively, decided "yeah lets just use these"?
I don't buy it.
Agree for a main computer but there's no risk when using Windows 7 or XP on an offline machine.
If it were offline machines, then they wouldn't be on these statistics
they’re using AI to generate system level code?
holy shit this is the dumbest way to destroy civilization
They should make a Windows version called Windows 10P which is the same as Windows 10 but only the bare-bones necessities and no extra crap or required online services, and sell it for $59.99 (seeing that Windows is already de facto freeware). That's probably an order of magnitude than what they make from intrusive advertising anyway to a single user over the lifespan of a computer.
This already exists, and it doesn't cost $60. What you want is the Windows 10 IoT LTSC Edition.
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Why do you keep saying that? Lol
I use this on my DJ laptop. It's nice because it doesn't constantly bother you with bullshit, and is extremely stable.
Anyone still stuck on 10 who isn't ready for Linux just yet should give LTSC a try. You'll probably like it. It's not going away anytime soon, either, because it is used in mission critical things like ATMs and cash registers that need to just work without being bothered with constant updates and reboots nor being bombarded with ads.
No way they will do that. The value for microsoft these days is in harvesting their victims info and forcing them in to their walled garden.
They have been trying to force a microsoft accounts on everyone. I know what a walled garden is and when Microsoft looks at apples they are jealous. Remember S mode? The shitbox machines microsoft pushed out that could only use their app store. That is the end goal for them. They just can't sell it.
My current problem is keeping copilot and recall off of our public computers. People are using them and want them clear of spyware and intrusive monitoring. You can not really get rid of any of the microsoft software since they now cache it on the computer. Anytime someone new logs in it puts 365 and copilot on their profile. If you delete it from the cache its back the next update cycle. They have begun putting notepad and basic programs in the cache. So you can't just kill it by making the cache path inaccessible. They are gearing up to close off all holes and force their app store onto everyone. They are working toward a walled garden where everyone has a microsoft account.
So maybe you don't know what a walled garden is? You don't understand that they have everything in place to lock out any third party software. They have recall, a huge security risk to train up their AI's. You can't believe anything they say about it. I know this because I've been around since the dos floppies had the IBM logo on them.
They have a unmanageable cache of software downloading without consent that uses their app store and if you kill it with a gpo you start having problems with basic functions. They killed wsus because it could be used to lock out their garbage. Despite operating in a domain environment I still see messages on accounts urging people to link a microsoft account.
So please tell me about what I know or don't know.
Your username is a downright lie and you sound like you haven't actually used windows since 7. Keep drinking the microsoft propaganda, you are clearly the target audience after all.
It would be of lower value to them without the data-gathering and the AI injection.
The data makes them money. The AI helps th justify their investment, but also gives them data to ad to their models.
Computers that are too new for Windows 7 come with Windows 10 preinstalled on them though. Who would buy an extra copy? You can debloat Windows 10 with a debloater tool
How about a Win 7 Remaster? Since there's been a lot of them recently.
Tbf proton evolving fast as he doing, soon i won't even will need windows beside my workplace notebook
Switched to Linux a couple years ago and at this point it is rare that a game doesn't "just work" and even rarer when it still won't work after trying other versions of proton in the Steam compatibility settings for the game.
Depending on if there is a specific game you know doesn't work that is a deal breaker for you, it might be fine at this point to switch. Just throwing that out there. You may not need more compatibility than what is available.
Yeah I think a lot of people don't understand how far it's come. Often even games that Steam lists as "unsupported" will work with some very light tinkering.
How moddings tool like MO2 and the mods from nexus are behaving on Linux ?
Also, PCVR, playing HALF LIFE ALYX, Arizona Sunshine, OpenMW VR are huge deal breakers for me
I don't think I've actually played any of those so I can't speak to them but hopefully someone else can. There is a website you can check compatibility on although I don't know if it includes non-games and/or tools. Arizona Sunshine looks like it's fine: https://www.protondb.com/search?q=arizona+sunshine
If it's gold or higher it'll almost certainly play without issue. Silver will very likely play if you tweak the compatibility settings to change proton versions (go to game options in steam > compatibility > change the version. Bronze is hit or miss, you'll likely be able to get it to work but it might require more work. Borked is of course...borked.
Anyways, someone else can probably answer those games specifically but if not you can use the website to check.
I still have my old Win7 pro disk with unlimited installs :p
I didn't think i would ever use it, but I'm also not ever gonna use win11, so maybe upgrading from 10 to 7 will be my plan for my windows needs if they are both gonna be insecure anyway.
7 is just the best OS Microsoft has made, it's been downhill since.
JFC I wish I could go back to win 7, I had to get win 11 and I've never hated an os like this in my life. My favorite part is how I have no control over it changing the things I actually use. No sorry, my favorite part is how right around the time an update is about to come out my windows starts crashing and locking up. It's amazing.
So more ppl are re-purposing old, legacy win7 machines despite security risk...
Completely clueless about anything linux or floss in that matter wether even if there where lighter distros with better hardware support & enough apps for everyday office needs & more.
Like win7 can't even run any UWP apps, photoshop or steam anymore.
It's great livin' in 2025
Any chance this will lead Microsoft to re-evaluate its use of AI?
If the world weren't networked the way it is now (I'm not against global connectivity as a thing, just how it works now), any kind of old software and hardware could be used. Because security and things breaking without the Internet are the main reasons why people update.
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