people are doing this willingly??!!!

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[–] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s already been pulled off the store because it was too easy to reverse engineer the server and listen to other people’s calls.

https://www.androidheadlines.com/2025/09/neon-call-recording-iphone-app-shut-down-exposed-user-data.html

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    After being notified of the security lapse, the app’s founder took the servers offline. In a message sent to users, the company cited a need to “add extra layers of security” during a period of rapid growth.

    if they do come back and people still sign up i will actually go insane

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We live in a world where people take out loans to buy groceries. For the desperate and destitute, they may find this worth it.

    ...doesn't make it any less fucked though.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    This is insane. A good government would legislate against this, but with current ones, they may even be one of the potential data buyers.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Holy shit, WTF is wrong with people?

    Like, everyone here. Who makes this? Who uses this? All idiots.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Why not feed them AI-generated calls to both earn money and poison their datasets?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Obviously, there are plenty of reasons to decry this. However, actually paying the end user is a million times better than the harvesting that has been going on for years with not much tangible benefit to users.

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago

    yeah but they're paying people pennies compared to the amount of money they'll make from selling and reselling this (not just to AI companies). Its a small one time payment. TOS also gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want with your voice and all the information they have on you. This is a whole lot worse for the user.

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  • Been hearing a lot about this. Has anybody heard of this app before this story started breaking? How TF did it get to #2?

    Also, it seems that what the app does has never been a secret. Their tag line is something like "phone companies make money off your calls, now you can too." I don't think they were doing anything secretive. People knew they were selling recordings of their phone conversations. So... what's the problem? Aside from the fact that I, and I would imagine most who would be subscribed to a /privacy community, would never use it. It's not for us.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is a very good reason for Android to allow voice recording

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Technically it already allows it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yes, but in some countries is illegal so you won't always have this option available.

    In my country it is legal, yet the dialer app that came with the stock OS of my device, that was bought in a local shop, didn't have the recording feature.

    Now that I have Lineage installed I am able to record calls from the default Dialer app.

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    [–] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    I'm sure this is no way a legal kerfuffle just waiting to happen.

    Some states have single party consent laws, what happens when they call someone who's in a two party consent law state? Are they going to add in a "this call is being monitored to help train our slop generator" message?

    Fuck it, popcorn

    Edit: I just realized a great way to sour the data: Only use the app when calling call centers. Enjoy listening to the "updated menu options" that haven't changed in years, the shitty hold music, and the insufferable "your call is important to us, but not important enough to upgrade our staff" bullshit. I don't miss voice calls...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My first thought was setting this up on a separate or spare phone and then just having it call to call centers with no long old times

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  • This just in: Humans are fucking stupid. More tonight at 11.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Man, they can record me screwing with the Medicare/car warranty/problem with my Google listing calls all day and pay me.

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Honestly, that doesn't sound bad, as long as it's clearly communicated and has opt-in/opt-out.

    I wouldn't mind selling some of my data that i choose consensually, and getting fairly compensated for it.

    Especially when comparing that to how most (if not all) current major companies just covertly steal all they can about you and sell it behind our backs to whoever.

    Saying all that, i don't support current AI model training practices at all. So i agree (for now) with the means, not the end results.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago*

    Their webpage should be a template for privacy disclosures. It's just very upfront that you're exchanging your data for free service

    https://neonmobile.com/

    It also blows a giant hole in the argument of privacy advocates that people just don't know that they're giving up their privacy. They just don't care.

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