It’s already been pulled off the store because it was too easy to reverse engineer the server and listen to other people’s calls.
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This is insane. A good government would legislate against this, but with current ones, they may even be one of the potential data buyers.
Holy shit, WTF is wrong with people?
Like, everyone here. Who makes this? Who uses this? All idiots.
Apparently some users were calling people and recording regular background conversations just to get paid. This was discovered because all of the calls were publicly available
Why not feed them AI-generated calls to both earn money and poison their datasets?
Obviously, there are plenty of reasons to decry this. However, actually paying the end user is a million times better than the harvesting that has been going on for years with not much tangible benefit to users.
yeah but they're paying people pennies compared to the amount of money they'll make from selling and reselling this (not just to AI companies). Its a small one time payment. TOS also gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want with your voice and all the information they have on you. This is a whole lot worse for the user.
Been hearing a lot about this. Has anybody heard of this app before this story started breaking? How TF did it get to #2?
Also, it seems that what the app does has never been a secret. Their tag line is something like "phone companies make money off your calls, now you can too." I don't think they were doing anything secretive. People knew they were selling recordings of their phone conversations. So... what's the problem? Aside from the fact that I, and I would imagine most who would be subscribed to a /privacy community, would never use it. It's not for us.
This is a very good reason for Android to allow voice recording
Technically it already allows it.
Yes, but in some countries is illegal so you won't always have this option available.
In my country it is legal, yet the dialer app that came with the stock OS of my device, that was bought in a local shop, didn't have the recording feature.
Now that I have Lineage installed I am able to record calls from the default Dialer app.
I'm sure this is no way a legal kerfuffle just waiting to happen.
Some states have single party consent laws, what happens when they call someone who's in a two party consent law state? Are they going to add in a "this call is being monitored to help train our slop generator" message?
Fuck it, popcorn
Edit: I just realized a great way to sour the data: Only use the app when calling call centers. Enjoy listening to the "updated menu options" that haven't changed in years, the shitty hold music, and the insufferable "your call is important to us, but not important enough to upgrade our staff" bullshit. I don't miss voice calls...
My first thought was setting this up on a separate or spare phone and then just having it call to call centers with no long old times
I was going with calling the speaking clock and talking in tongues.
Maybe read the article where it already states it only records your side of the conversation?
Man, they can record me screwing with the Medicare/car warranty/problem with my Google listing calls all day and pay me.
Honestly, that doesn't sound bad, as long as it's clearly communicated and has opt-in/opt-out.
I wouldn't mind selling some of my data that i choose consensually, and getting fairly compensated for it.
Especially when comparing that to how most (if not all) current major companies just covertly steal all they can about you and sell it behind our backs to whoever.
Saying all that, i don't support current AI model training practices at all. So i agree (for now) with the means, not the end results.
Their webpage should be a template for privacy disclosures. It's just very upfront that you're exchanging your data for free service
It also blows a giant hole in the argument of privacy advocates that people just don't know that they're giving up their privacy. They just don't care.
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