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FFS Plex, the server is on my local network (no.lastname.nz)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Well I already have jellyfin running in a container, just have to figure out how to get mum's TV to work with it I guess

log in on a local IP and not the network name and it's working again. but I'll be moving to jellyfin from now

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[–] 71 points 1 year ago (9 children)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Meme acquisition notice

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    1000087215

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Notice

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    • [+] 251 points 1 year ago (58 children)
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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (33 children)

    Is there something better than jellyfin? I've been using it for a little over a year, and it works for the most part, but clients are often pretty buggy (especially on apple apple devices)

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Have you tried the third party ones? I've seen recommendations for Swiftfin

    https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

    Yeah that's the one I'm using on our appleTV, it's buggy as hell. "Continue" show often doesn't work and picks an episode that I've watched long ago and not the next in line, often never updating it despite watching several episode over several weeks. Aftee Pausing a show or movie and closing the app, if you want to continue from where you left off, well that doesn't work consistently either, usually it will just restart from the beginning. Switching language on shows pretty much doesn't work at all, it will either never change from default audio language, or use an entirely different language than the one picked from the list.

    All these things work perfectly fine from a browser or official app on android.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I mostly use Infuse on the Apple TV and Streamyfin on the iPhone.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'd be happy to pay for Infuse if the lifetime wasn't AU$150, and I just outright reject paying a subscription for an app for using something FOSS, even if it's only AU$20/year. A lifetime license that's 3-5yrs of a yearly sub is much more reasonable.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I’m no fan of software subscriptions. I have only one and it’s Infuse. Took the plunge mainly for Apple TV playback a few years ago and I’m glad I did.

    It’s not just relying on FOSS through JF, but allows connection to Plex and Emby servers. And just as importantly direct NAS playback (side note - I honestly think a lot people go through the hassle of setting up a full JF/Emby/Plex server when this option would work just as well for them for single client playback). They also update regularly, and generally adhere to native OS design standards so it feels at home - https://firecore.com/releases

    Back to the point, I pay the cost of a McDonald’s meal a year and I’m happy. IMHO it’s fantastic value. And I’ll continue to wait patiently for the official Jellyfin Apple TV client rework (Swiftfin). If it’s great and ticks the boxes I need I’ll cancel the Infuse subscription, if not we get enough value for £8.99 a year to make it a no brainer decision to continue.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Plex will do the exact same thing if you have an episode earlier in your history that didnt get marked as “watched”. But plex lets you manually tag episodes as watched which usually fixes it. Maybe there’s a similar option in jellyfin?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I use Emby and it's flawless, might be worth swimming upstream?

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Yeah, the way things at going I feel like I should protect myself further with a VPN, but it does break some of my services' access. Just another hurdle in the track to net independence that will be overcome! Heaven knows we've overcome many to get where we each are.

    No need to bust your brain trying too hard - you'll find an answer eventually!

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Infuse is so good on Apple TV it’s worth the money

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I refuse to support companies with subscription based business models.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I just bought the lifetime since it works out to being cheaper than the subscriptions it saves me from over like a year

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I can't say I've given Jellyfin a proper try (as in using it and the clients exclusively for a long period) but we have been using Emby for quite a while before I knew it existed.

    If I'm not mistaken Jellyfin is actually a fork of Emby so they're pretty similar, but one is a bit older.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    If I'm not mistaken Jellyfin is actually a fork of Emby so they're pretty similar, but one is a bit older.

    Jellyfin forked from Emby in 2018 when Emby chose to switch to a closed-source model. Because of this, there are many similarities, but the projects continue to become increasingly different from one another as time goes on.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I was probably using Emby already by then, had bought a lifetime license since it didn't require bouncing things off and outside server like Plex did (or was it that Plex was a renewing subscription, I forget) , so it just stayed out of inertia.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Is there something better than jellyfin?

    Plex.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What if you want to own your server?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    btw i use jellyfin

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I did try and preempt that in my comment - but it's hard to switch from plex when there are 5 other people with everything all configured and history etc

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I wanted to move to Jellyfin, but there isn't an app for it on the LG WebOS library like there is for Plex, so I wouldn't be able to watch stuff on my TV, which sadly makes it useless for me :-(

    I don't have the money to be going out and buying extra add-ons for my TV to watch stuff either, sadly. So, Plex it is for now!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    When was the last time you checked? A client was added to the WebOS store maybe 2 or 3 years ago for recent models, and support for older models (like my C9) came months later.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Root your TV and install the homebrew channel on it.

    Yes, this is real.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The Homebrew Channel for LG WebOS is got three pieces of absolutely essential software:

    A YouTube app modified with built in ad blocking and sponsor blocking. The Jellyfin app. The Moonlight app.

    With these three plus the toggle to block system updates your TV gets 1000% better for free.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    now I need to find a Wiimote, damnit

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    You can use the Smart remote which is basically the fusion of a wiimote, a tv remote and a computer mouse

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    I tried googling some of this but I must be misunderstanding the thread, mind ELI5 for the rest of us? ^_^'

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    OK.

    So, you know of android rooting?

    (I'm assuming no)Android rooting is the action of getting superuser prileveges on an android device, which lets you do literally anything. From removing bloat, to overclocking, it gives you full power over the device.

    Keep in mind that "with great power comes great responsibility." -the sudo command on first use

    Well, it's that, but for TVs.

    As for the remote, how you move the cursor is wii-like, and you can click the [OK] button to click stuff. You can also scroll, because the [OK] button is also a scroll wheel.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    15 years ago a pirate decided to name the main channel on the Nintendo Wii for homebrew the "Homebrew Channel", as it has been for 15 years.

    That was my reference. If you found a hacked Wii right now and turned it on, it would be one of the channels available.

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    • [–] 53 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I got the Plex lifetime pass over 10 years ago for pretty cheap and Plex has served me well over the years. But it's just so damn bloated now and the biggest recent change to their android app is atrocious. The app is so laggy and slow now. And downloading movies to watch locally on a tablet is just painful.

    So I decided to start experimenting with Jellyfin this month and I am blown away at how fast and snappy everything is. It still isn't as refined as Plex but there's something to be said about privacy and using FOSS apps.

    I'll be using Jellyfin going forward now.

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    • [–] 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

    Remember when Plex tried to sell you a subscription to use outdated versions of open source game console emulators?

    Plex wants to be a profit-driven company, but their business model is piracy. They'll squeeze you for subscriptions, while making your experience worse to try and broker a peace deal with content owners.

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  • [+] -44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (24 children)

    idk I find $2/month to be very reasonable. I don't feel squeezed.

    EDIT: Just to be clear there is no amount of condescending replies form trilby wearing neckbeard keyboard warriors that will change my opinion.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    To stream remotely from your own server?

    If I chose to use Plex's plex.tv services to expose my server to the internet, that's one thing. But I have my Plex server exposed through my own infrastructure (NPM + Let's Encrypt), so fuck that shit.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    The $2/mo is for the Plex relay service. If you access the server directly it should be free.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It's not. Now you need to pay any time you want to connect to your server from outside of your LAN.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Would a VPN be a solution to that?

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Yes. You only need to pay if you’re connecting via their relay or trying to use the remote hosting functionality. But since a VPN would land you inside of the network, you’d be fine. You’d probably need to dig into the plex settings to specify that the VPN subnet is LAN traffic. But after that, you should be good.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Setting up ddns takes 15 minutes for a professional (mostly setting a 1-line script to reload a simple url every ten minutes)

    and poking a hole in the firewall takes maybe half an hour (since every router puts the relevant page in a different spot)

    And for this you think it's reasonable to pay ~$25/year for the rest of your life? You're not wrong in the sense that you're welcome to choose your own values, but I … disagree with you on the value position.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I mean, you just listed the most insecure way to host Jellyfin. Poking a hole in your firewall will technically work, but that doesn’t mean it’s the correct way to do things. A good setup would use a reverse proxy, and some sort of authentication wall like Authentik or Authelia.

    All of that would only take about 15 minutes for someone who knows what they’re doing. But the vast majority of people setting up Jellyfin for the first time won’t know what they’re doing. And seeing the inevitable “lol just open your firewall” comments only serves to scare them away, because even the noobs have heads that’s the wrong way to do things.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would be ashamed of myself and be tempted to leave the industry in disgrace if setting up DDNS and allowing a single port through a firewall took me 45 minutes.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhh. I want the newbs to feel accomplished when it only takes them 2 hours to figure it out. 😉

    But seriously, you and I have it on reflex, but there's merit to the notion that we also have our mise en place - we've read the manual, we've saved or memorized the script, already know our local equipment passwords, etc - all things we took the time to do before and now have at the ready.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I'd be fine paying $25 a year to not maintain that shit myself. Plus the money should contribute to development efforts.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It should. I agree, but speaking as someone in the industry - usually it doesn't. Just lines some rich guy's pockets.

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