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What is the worst present civilization? And why is our own nation? (lemmy.world)
submitted 1 year ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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It is a no brainer that the place that we grew up and the country that we born is fucked up.

Why is that?

Would this feel less painful if we didn't have borders? Free limits, to any region, would make us realize that everywhere is fucked up?

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[โ€“] 16 points 1 year ago

The US Empire, and it isn't close. By far the largest exporter of violence and genocide, the biggest plunderer on the planet towards the global south, with some of the highest wealth disparity in the world. Good thing it's slowly but surely crumbling like Rome.

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    [โ€“] [S] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    How do we get out of this shit?

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  • [โ€“] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Start by banning religion, then start taxing everyone fairly including companies. Then just be nice to everyone.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 1 year ago

    Banning religion has never been a good way to deal with it, historically. Secondly, the idea that taxation will solve the inherent contradictions within capitalism is wrong, especially when we live in the era of dying imperialism.

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    • [โ€“] 11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    What is your nation? Perhaps the answer lies in the reason why I need to ask that question?

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  • [โ€“] [S] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm a bit more curious where those that are downvoting live. Do you really like most people from your country and their behave? That is the point of the post. If you can answer that question with no doubt "yes" then I beg you to share the name of this paradise on earth.

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    • [โ€“] -1 points 1 year ago

    I wouldn't say it is my own nation. That award probably goes to the US or Northkorea depending on how i weigh things. With mine i do not think everything is great, but there is still hope

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    [โ€“] -5 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The global group of oligarchs. Through them it was made possible that Russia got seized by fascism, and that China turned ever more capitalist; and that the USA is now a prototypical infant fascist state.

    Order can only exist with liberty.
    Liberty can only exist with decentralisation. Decentralisation can only exist with anarchocommunism.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 1 year ago*

    China is socialist, just because they adopted increased market reforms doesn't make it "more capitalist." The latge firms and key industries are publicly owned, and the economy is increasingly folded into the public sector over time.

    I disagree about decentralization, I believe full collectivization of the economy is the answer.

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