Original question by @phantomwise@lemmy.ml

What are your favorite insane laptops?

Mine is the Dell Rugged: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F56ION4_n0

Bump and fall proof, liquid proof, sand proof (and cat hairs proof I assume), extreme heat/cold proof, can be used as a blunt weapon in an emergency. Ridiculously overkill for anyone that's not a geologist working in Antarctica or an archaeologist in the Gobi desert, and ridiculously overkill is fun

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[–] 8 points 1 year ago*

I never owned one, but the KOHJINSHA DZ series was one of the most striking laptops I’d ever seen.

It wasn’t a touchscreen, but it could switch into a tablet-style mode, and it had dual 10.1-inch displays, which was pretty crazy at the time.

DZ series

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    I'm going to use this as an opportunity to reminisce about an insane laptop of the past: I once had a thinkpad W700ds. I chose this because work was paying for it, and I wanted a powerful machine and a 17 screen. This was a no compromises "mobile workstation." I knew it wasn't going to be light or slim, but my attitude was, what, am I afraid of getting a little extra exercise carrying it around?

    But I really wasn't imagining quite what I got. It weighed almost 11 pounds (maybe more, because I think I added an extra drive). And it was big. Extra thick. I had to search really hard to find a backpack that would actually fit it, and what I ended up having to get was actually targeted at DJ's. It was a beast.

    And the icing on the cake was the extra slide out screen. I knew this was gimmicky, and didn't actually want it, but the model without it was out of stock. It slid out of the cover on the side, so as to be next to the main monitor, but it was kind of crappy. The resolution wasn't as good and it was dimmer, so it just didn't look right. It was kind of embarrassing and contributed to the cover having to be just that much thicker.

    Even the power brick was huge.

    Yeah, one of those I didn't really think things through moments. It was a great conversation starter though, if you didn't mind admitting to being a dork.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    The IBM Thinkpads with butterfly keyboard.

    Or the Psion Series 5, but that's technically a palmtop.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I’m using a MacBook Pro 15” from 2011, and that’s pretty insane. I replaced the optical drive with an SSD and put 16GB of RAM in it, but it’s still going strong!

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    Where’s your trackball my dude

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Impractical. Why would anyone ever need so many screens on the go?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    I am pretty sure desktops can be used if you are in such a situation. Portable power has been a thing for decades.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    This is going to be heavy af and it probably has battery life of 10 minutes. So it will need a charger too.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago*

    "Impractical. Why would anyone ever need so many screens on the go?"

    For the same reason why cars that can't ride over the slightest speed bumps are sold: low self-esteem and a high urge to stroke one's own ego.

    - -
    ✍︎ arscyni.cc: modernity ∝ nature.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I wasn't ready to see that thing. Would have sprayed my drink out if I were drinking at the moment your link loaded. lol

    I would love to have that just to show to co-workers and friends, just to see their reactions. I could see it being kind of nice to have if I really really needed multiple screens. But would never want to bring it anywhere unless it is staying in a hotel room for like a week and working (which I don't have a job that would even give that situation to happen anyway). Still nice to see mobile workstations still have room for wild-ass designs like that. Kind of like how more smart phones used to have really wild selling points.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

    GPD Win Max 2. I love this little thing so much. ~8-10 hours of battery life, up to 64GB RAM, 16-core Ryzen on the newest model, 2K display. It's only 10 inches and it can run Cyberpunk with raytracing. It also has two slots for SSD's and an optional LTE module.

    The sticks are hall effect sensors, so there's no drift (looking at you, Nintendo). The keyboard is backlit and feels way too satisfying for something this small. (I actually like typing on it)

    On the backside of the device, you can slide out two metal covers and place them on top of the thumbsticks, hiding them and making the device look more professional.

    I once took this to a customer doing a training session and dropped the line "This thing is more powerful than all the computers in this room" and it was probably true.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    10/10 device - it's a solid laptop though I worry about longevity (they're a bastard to repair because the arts are all hard to find).

    Upside is it's the perfect machine for travel gaming!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    That's true, but I found parts like the bottom chassis, display assembly and keyboard on Aliexpress. They probably have the joystick modules too.

    The only thing I couldn't find were the actual rubber thumbsticks, which might become a problem in the future when they wear out. GPD promised to sell them individually a while ago, but as of yet, they haven't done so.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do you grip the device in both hands to use the joysticks, or do you just move them around with your thumbs? It looks rather thick, but also very cool.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    When gaming, I hold the device in both hands, just as they depict in their marketing material:

    When I'm on location and I have it sitting on the desk, I use the left joystick for scrolling and the right for moving the mouse, it works really well and I don't have to grip it (I configured AntiMicroX on Linux to translate the inbuilt Xbox controller to mouse movements).

    It also has a builtin mouse mode, but you have to press the right trigger to speed up the mouse, so it's very unconvenient when you're not holding the device in your hands.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I want one of these but Lenovo has the 11e with ryzen Apu and 8gh of ram for 80$. It's 1 inch bigger and more replaceable. That's what I'd go with if I could get another machine. I have too many machines as it is. Anyone want to trade an HP ProBook 8265u 16gb ram 256? It's a fucking monster and I barely use it lol

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Have they gotten better? I had the first GDP Win and it was really underwhelming.

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  • It is really well made. I had to take the whole machine apart to put in a QWERTZ keyboard and almost everything is easily replaceable and maintainable. The frame feels as sturdy as a typical Macbook chassis, the joystick elements are screwed in and can be swapped quickly, the motherboard and cooling system are also well assembled.

    The only thing I hated is that they glued the power button onto the backlight foil of the keyboard. I don't know what they were thinking, but glueing a flimsy flextape onto a flimsy foil is a horrible decision. Granted, most people probably never change their keyboard (but they didn't have the 64GB model with German layout back when I bought it).

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    How hot does it get under load of stuff like Cyberpunk or similar programs? I am always jazzed to see high-end laptops, but I am aware of heat being a given. We get a lot of normies (or gamers that dip their toes into PC gaming) that have more money than sense just demanding the most powerful laptop. And they bring them in for us to check-out due to how hot they get. Some of it comes down to them not knowing how to stop all the programs from starting up with it and causing it to heat up from the jump even before launching a game or whatever. lol

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    It's around ~48°C under my regular coding workload (Chrome, Firefox, Slack and phpStorm opened with a video playing). It's basically unhearable under these conditions, with the fan running on the lowest speed.

    The max temperature it gets to is ~83°C, which it will reach fairly quick when playing demanding games like Cyberpunk and the device gets a little warm, but not annoyingly hot then. Yes, it's a little thicc boii, but that works for its benefit because the thickness comes from the big heatpipe, fan and cooler.

    Disclaimer: I put a PTM7950 pad onto the CPU and it greatly benefits from it. Temps with regular paste are worse - I definitely reached temps in the 90s before (but it was not throttling).

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That is awesome to hear that the pipes and the pads you added are keeping it solid. I always get frustrated when laptops that have R9/i9 with good GPUs are anything less than "thicc." Thin and sleek laptops are nice to have for portability, but have no business having anything above R7/i7 (really should be high bin R5/i5 for both heat and the poor batteries). I might look into those pads for when I get around to opening my PS3 and 4 that need to get a real cleaning.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Fujitsu Lifebook P-2046. It was semi-rugged with a magnesium alloy chassis but, the real awesome bit was the Transmeta Crusoe processor. It was super power efficient (~15hr between charges with the extended battery) and performed decently. The thing was really ahead of its time.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That seems much too pragmatic for this thread 😁

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Possibly but the CPU was pretty crazy. It used "code morphing" to translate x86 instructions to its internal ISA, something that just seems a bit ridiculous to do at the hardware level.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's way more common than you may realize. Intel & AMD (and other x86 CPU manufacturers of the time) did it before the first Crusoe CPU launched. (2000 according to Wikipedia)

    CISC architectures are now seen as inefficient, so all the new ones are RISC and new CISC CPUs just translate the instructions to their intenal RISCier microarchitecture. The CPU's microcode specifies what an instruction translates to.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Oh, absolutely. The thing that is weird is being non-x86 hardware and explicitly implementing the translation layer in hardware that has minimal field configurability (they did have the capability of loading something similar to microcode). It makes sense in some ways (performance being a big one) but, seems like it would be vulnerable to potential changes in the external ISA.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Mine.

    Quad screen portable setup, baybeh! Razer's Valerie aint got nuttin' on me!

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    ThinkPad W701DS. Depending on configuration it has an intergrated Wacom digitiser w/ pen, a built-in Pantone colorimeter, two RAIDed hard drives and of course the glorious second screen that pops out.

    The advertising was interesting...

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    Those things aren't as rugged as they imply. Go for a brief jaunt and skip a little while swinging it by the handle. It'll turn into a laptop shaped projectile and leave a dent in both the ground and your wallet.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I don't think the Mediaworkstations a-X2P ever came out of "limited production", but with an EPYC processor, desktop GPU and 6 screens it still meets the mark IMO.

    [Edit]: Sorry, a pair of EPYC processors. And it's a shipping product.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Dragonfly Futurefön

    the design is insane, the people behind it are insane, the story is double-insane.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I actually used OPs Dell as a paramedic. It wasn't bad but I still prefer toughbooks

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    yea and then you install windows on it

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I am on my third Rugged. Two lemons, third one is fine. Beware, these have hardware issues and get the extended warranty.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I got a couple I really like, though for vastly different reasons:

    • The MNT Reform series takes the crown for their commitment towards open source software AND open source hardware.
    • The ASUS Zenbook DUO is an early entry in the direction of what I perceive as peak design. This technology will only improve from here and I hope other vendors will take cues from this one.
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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Could you elaborate on the reform? I hear the hype yet to me it looks like a severely overpriced tv box with some low-grade peripherials strapped to it in the least space efficient way possible. Did they got rockchip to release sources instead of blobs or something? What is the praise actually for?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Could you elaborate on the reform?

    For some reason, I was under the impression that laptops in the MNT Reform series were the only laptops that were manufactured using open (source) hardware only. Or, if there were others, that it must have been doing something so special that they deserved to be put on a pedestal. But, currently, I don't feel confident enough to state why it would be superior over say the Olimex TERES-I or Pinebook Pro.

    I hear the hype yet to me it looks like a severely overpriced tv box with some low-grade peripherials strapped to it in the least space efficient way possible.

    We definitely pay a premium, but I don't know exactly why. Especially when the aforementioned Olimex TERES-I and Pinebook Pro are almost an order of magnitude cheaper.

    Did they got rockchip to release sources instead of blobs or something?

    From what I understood, Rockchip offers (at least some of) its SoCs as open source hardware. So, what MNT Reform did for the SoC is order them as open source hardware and include/publicize/provide all the schematics (etc).

    What is the praise actually for?

    FWIW, the open source hardware aspect is what I was intrigued by*.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I've sketched out ideas for something like the MNT Reform, but with a Framework motherboard, and it's surprisingly hard to whittle down the form factor any more without sacrificing unique and useful features, like the user-replaceable battery cells and modular mechanical keyboard. Those were the main attractions for me, and it is indeed very weak hardware for the price. Tallying up the component prices, it's about as good as it gets without economies of scale while insisting on libre firmware.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Who's going to start the YouTube channel for it called "Kennit?" where you see just what you can use it to do? First episode should be as an oar.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The laptop with a full sized mechanical keyboard on it. Oh and dual 330w power bricks.

    https://www.pcworld.com/article/407225/acer-predator-21-x-review.html

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Getac made some pretty cool ones.

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  • MSI titan line of monsters "technically a laptop, but is closer to a overkill desktop gaming monster". They all weighs like 6 kilos

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    Panasonic Toughbook CF-XZ6

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