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Post:"Can someone please tell me why schools in Europe have no security?" Reply:"We have like a whole ocean between us and America... how much more security do you want?"

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[+] 237 points 1 year ago* (22 children)
  • [–] 235 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    For those unaware, an expat is an immigrant, but white.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I always thought expats had to live in little expat communities, keeping themselves aloof from the rest of the population. It's a level of snobbery beyond even still caring where you're originally from. That was my understanding from all the little compounds I saw in the global south.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I mean some people typically called immigrants do that too

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Typically because that’s where they’re ALLOWED to live.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    For those unaware, an expat is an immigrant, but white and racist.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I'd personally argue against it. I've a British neighbour old-man who I walk with and he's very nice and world travelled. He even said that he chose to have the British retirement fund over my country's because that's where he paid taxes in.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Core memory unlocked: Looking at a store called “Expat store” or something in that vein in Den Haag as a little boy, asking my parent what “expat” is. “That's an American immigrant.” “So, why are they not just an immigrant?” “That way they feel better about themselves.”

    I only just realised how based my parents are.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Not an expat, an immigrant. I hate the term expat.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I've always assumed it depends on what your context is. If your perspective is the country that the immigrant is from, then they would be an expat. If you are in context of the other country they are an immigrant.

    Ie

    "My friend is an expat who went off to The Netherlands." "My friend is an immigrant that came here from The USA."

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    That's what I've always assumed too, but I only ever hear it in reference to other Americans, so I could absolutely believe that it's just some weird shit they use to separate themselves from immigrants.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Emigrant. That's the kind of migrant who leaves a country. They'd be an immigrant in their new country.

    But, IMO there's a difference with an expat. An expat is often someone who isn't moving permanently, and as a result is often not trying to integrate into their new country.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    From my observation when living in The Netherlands as an immigrant (from Portugal) sometimes working in companies with lots of foreigners, most of us said of ourselves as being "immigrants", except Americans and Brits who often said they were "expats".

    Curiously, generally the other people from different nations, including the Dutch, would use immigrant rather than expat when refering to the status of the self-proclaimed "expats" in that country - "expat" was very much their label for themselves.

    The Americans and Brits were there in average for just a long as the rest.

    I don't think it's really length of stay, at least not directly, I think it's about the immigrant believing or not that their country of origin is a "greater country" than the country they're living in. You can see this for example in places like Spain where British retirees have retired to and live the rest of their lives in their own Little Britain communities calling themselves "expats".

    This also matched to how some of the British immigrants most pissed of about their homeland (for example, a gay guy who had to move to The Netherlands to marry his partner, as back then that was not allowed in Britain) made a point of using "immigrant" for themselves instead of "expat".

    It's about national delusions of grandeur, IMHO.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I always assumed that 'expatriate' meant that you gave up citizenship in the old country to get citizenship in the new country. Like it's a type of immigration that a lot of people like to pretend they've done because it's pretty hardcore.

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    [–] 183 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    Who the fuck emigrates to Europe as a hardcore American fascist? Seriously? What the actual fuck?

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  • [–] 80 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    We have plenty of fascists here. It's not like the US have a monopoly. We don't quite let them run the show yet, but we're certainly working on it.

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  • [–] 107 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Spreading the plague, as insects are wont to do.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As an American, I would like to apologize profusely for the rank idiocy of my fellow citizens.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    No need for an apology here, I too am beyond mortified by what my country has revealed itself to be. I do sincerely hope the rest of the civilized world resists the ideology we seem to be exporting before it's too late.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    They come here to spread their culture, their ideology of violence and intolerance.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    As an American, please enthusiastically tell any American that tries to do this to fuck all the way off and go back to our own shitty country. I don’t want us fucking up your continent too.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Here here. If Europe goes to trash I won't even be able to VPN my way out of fascist bullshit.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    If Europe goes to fash, my options narrow to Japan or SK or A/NZ, and none of those have the same geopolitical weight as the EU.

    The EU is, IMO, the last best hope for democracy in the world these days, in the context of a geopolitically significant polity that is (mostly) cohesive.

    And I hope that statement ages like wine, not milk (or, like the B5 S3 intro)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean Japan's political situation is kind of weird. The LDP has basically been in power forever (with super brief interruptions). It lost power recently though so we'll see what happens I guess. IIUC tho anti-immigrant sentiment is rising (at least partly fueled by the massive waves of shitty tourists IMO), which prob isn't a great sign based on what's been happening in other countries.

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  • I still speak a reasonable amount of Japanese, and am familiar with the social norms. I think I would be fine, despite being white as a picket fence.

    That’s not to say I am dismissing the xenophobia - it’s real, and it’s one of the aspects of Japanese society that troubles me the most, in a general sense.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Could be a military member stationed there. A guy I work with is one of those 4chan "libertarians" and had nothing but "horror stories" about living in Germany. Same guy is terrified to venture into the local major metropolitan area or take the light rail system.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Maybe for a specific job? Booking.com used to heavily recruit US talent to work in Amsterdam. It was usually only for a few years at a time, though, in accordance with Dutch labor and immigration laws.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Not for years and years. Most of the booking.com staff is remote. All the senior staff is outsourced now too and very little is in Amsterdam. If you get a job there, word to the wise, don't compliment the one lady's chickens, she gets big mad.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I’m an American living in the EU, and I’m surprised by that. All the other American immigrants I’ve met so far have been opposed to Trump and Republicans generally. I always figured the conservatives were likely to be buying into AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt propaganda and would thus be uninterested in moving to another country.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Imagine being racist and wanting to enjoy it instead of making it political. In the US it's culture war shit. In Europe you can go to a football match and throw bananas at the black players and it's chill. It's just easier to be casually racist in Europe because racism doesn't exist there, and if it does, it's not as bad as America.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago

    Gotta say, thats a pretty good burn.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    As a Canadian, I would very much like some sort of barrier between my country and the United States. We've got our own brand of crazy up here and have absolutely no need to import any junk from the USA.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    As an American, I hope Canada gets some sort of barrier between it and the United States.

    I would gladly go with my family and volunteer to help build it. If my family "accidentally" ends up on the Canadian side, I'd much rather stay though and help offset the crazy you have there....

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (39 children)

    Because we don't have regular mass shootings in schools because we don't give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world...or the USA in 1792.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (33 children)

    It's not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don't shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don't shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels

    Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    We "tend to turn a blind eye to it" because "cultural problem" is primarily used as a racist dog whistle.

    If your intention was to point at the underlying cause, you need to be talking about systematic impoverization, lack of generational wealth, devaluation of labor, etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Being American is not exclusive to black people and thus American culture has a country-wide problem in relation to guns.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    That makes sense from an outside perspective, sure. But your criticism was about Americans turning a blind eye to the "cultural" problem.

    Within the US, blaming gun violence on "culture" means pointing out that 13-17% of the population commits (and are the victims of) 55-65% of the murders. Blaming "culture" means pointing out that mass shooters are predominantly white, they also account for less than 1% of all murders.

    The Americans broadly adopting your "cultural problem" argument are MAGAts. Normal Americans are turning a blind eye to that viewpoint, rather than being lumped in with those racist pricks.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.

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    So that's part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Nope, Switzerland had one of the highest rates of gun suicides before measures were taken.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Gun suicides or suicides in general?

    Because suicides will always be an issue. Guns just make it easier. How many mass shootings have the swiss had though? Switzerland has a "List of mass shootings" article on Wikipedia. The US has a "ListS of mass shootings" category. The US list for 2018 alone is significantly longer than Switzerland's list starting with 1905. I realize that Switzerland has a smaller population, but the per capita rates have a large discrepancy too. Something like a 9x difference.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    As I said gun suicides.

    And guns are a big part of the problem. Science has proven that over and over.

    Yes America has other problems. For example not accepting that it is not in a healthy enough mental state to own guns.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    So suicides in general weren't dramatically affected, only the method differed?

    Problem in the US is that the genie is out of the bottle now. Start removing guns by force and the people who are already predisposed to shooting up events, are going to be keeping them AND they'l have affirment for their conspiracy theories so they're even more likely to shoot shit up.

    I agree Americans should never have been allowed to buy guns like this, it’s just not a fixable problem right now. Other things need to be fixed first.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora's box.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Too late now unfortunately. The people who'd need to give up their guns, will never do so voluntarily. The actually responsible gun owners might give theirs away though.

    It's media, education and the political system that need to change. It won't.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    It's a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and "freedom"

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's not a dumb comparison because it shows that in a healthy society, people don't try to murder each other even given the chance. The fact that Americans buy guns for "freedom" is a symptom, not the root cause of all issues.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    As a gun owner in USA, I fucking hate gun culture.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That's why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.

    No bro, I don't want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.

    I keep my shit in my safe, that's it. It's not a personality.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Same. Very few people know I own one and have a concealed license. Made sure the gf knew how to shoot and that she wouldn't hesitate to use it if necessary. But that's it. Been locked away at least since Valentine's last year when we went to shoot.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    honest question: then why do you own one?
    I get self defense, of course, but doesn't the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture? or am I missing something?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    No, you'll know gun culture when you see it. The people that put the stupid stickers all over the car, the firearm brands, the calibers, stuff like that, becomes a major part of their personality.

    Like the other commenter said, you would never know that I even own a gun unless we were pretty damn close.

    I don't really have a solid answer for you. I think it started growing up where my dad had guns, rifles, in the army but he was super protective of them, he wouldn't show them to us, he wouldn't let us see them at all, he wouldn't teach us about them so I was just genuinely curious. So when I moved out that was the first thing I bought.

    And I hated the gun laws here, you can buy and sell guns just like you're selling a car, just do a bill of sale. There's no background check for secondhand guns. i bought my first one at a metro stop in DC area, rode the train out, guy pulled up to the metro parking lot and we traded. i mean we took pictures of each other's IDs and did a bill of sale, but beyond that, nothing.

    Mine doesn't really ever come out of lockup unless we're camping or going on a long road trip. I haven't carried it in years and I think my license might even be expired at this point. I'm not scared, maybe wildlife, I'm near the Appalachian Mountains. I don't carry it around to intimidate anybody, or try to use it for coercion. But I guess the fascination has just always been there since it was withheld growing up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    we don't give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show

    Erm, wut?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    In America you can bypass gun checks in most checks if you buy your gun from a Gun show.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yes... but what does that have to do with the country allegedly giving every single person the money for a ticket?

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