The FHF is the foundation owning all instances (https://fedihosting.foundation/hosted/). So the costs are for running all the .world instances. The contribution to FHF is the costs for running the non-profit foundation itself.

The Patreon was setup when mastodon.world was the only instance... haven't renamed it yet.

https://bunq.me/fhf

Lemmy lacks essentially all mature moderation and administration controls a forum/social media platform would need to survive the broader internet back in 2014. Nevermind 2025.

It's quite unfortunate.

The only savings grace is how small Lemmy is, it's exposure is incredibly narrow right now.

Fediverse software in general tends to not be that performance friendly either. Leading to extreme hosting costs to scale up to even a meager number of users.and then fans out some level of duplicate resource requirements to federated instances.

Linearly, if lemmy.world (~15k MAU) was the size of reddit (~400mill MAU, being very conservative). It would cost ~$14,000,000/m in compute. Of course, the real number would be much higher due to scale ability complexities/technology. But either way that's a lot of $$$.

Anyways, not to be a Debby downer, it's just hard not to feel defeated by some of these things. And the tasks to make things better are massive.

Things are always getting better of course.

we do have some limits in place, but lemmy only allows rate limits per ip, and those are counted in each backend process independently. I'm currently working on implementing better rate limits in our load balancer.

due to rate limits historically not working at all or not working properly, there are still various instances without decent limits. additionally, these rare limits only apply to local users. federated activities are not limited within lemmy. we recent added some fairly high limits to our automod to catch some of these cases and it's been working alright so far.

Could have a truthworthiness score that can increase posting limits in the backend.

Such a mood I would love to contribute to projects and expand my skills and experience but I don't know how to get on the ground level. I have docker and C experience but its been a while since I've applied them.

Payments are handled by Stripe or Paypal for both platforms so that doesn't matter

The Bunq link goes directly to the bank account of the organization running Lemmy.world, mastodon.world, and piefed.world.

Yes it will work. And this way there will be no fees.

Yeah.. on PieFed.world we can see who downvoted..

Your comment has really been buried under all that spam. Didn't think I could redeem it 16 hours later. Thanks a lot.

Let‘s gooo!

Did that make it go up?

Yes GH is a good way, but I'm sure you can use $ on Patreon as well?

Yes! I think we might even have 500 to 1000 EUR more than we spend this month, so we can save that for next months. A lot of these are one-time donations, so I'll have to see how much we'll have next month, I'll keep you updated on the blog.

No for bank transfer there's no bottom limit

https://writefreely.org/

I'm assuming that you're referring to the Lemmy developers. FHF supports Lemmy development with a monthly donation of €50, same as we do for Mastodon development.

If it makes you feel better, there are enough other people donating who don't mind some or all of their donation amount going towards Lemmy development to offset your donation not being used for Lemmy development contributions.

It's not worth the effort to set up independent purpose-bound donation pools to separate donations from people unwilling to support certain people/organizations, as the end result would be the same, except a lot more maintenance/accounting overhead. Calculating with the current expenses of €1,700/month, this is less than 3% of the total donations we'd need to cover our bills.

Isn’t that a .ml issue, not a .world issue?

Same lol

Context for those unaware

Tbh, for me idc. Better a tankie than a fascist. And better an ancom than a tankie.

Whichever tankie allies with ancoms to fight the fascist, is my friend.

But, indeed unfortunately, a ton of self-proclaimed tankies actually are fascists.

afaik the decrease in users has mostly been on mastodon.world, where the suspected reason is to a large degree requiring registration applications to prevent spam bots. this seems to scare off a lot of users unfortunately. i'm not involved in the mastodon stuff, but afaik there is currently no system similar to what we have on lemmy or piefed to automatically accept applications after certain checks were successful.

In total the fediverse is stable or slightly growing. ActivityPub is how fediverse instances exchang information. More and more platforms are getting stood up and there are also a bunch of instances of those platforms.

Platforms are things like Friendica, Lemmy, Mastodon, PeerTube, Funkwhale, Hubzilla, Misskey, and now Pifed. Instances are things like lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.

This approach was intentional. No single platform or service controls everything and if someone starts misbehaving it's easy enough to go elsewhere.

That's not to say there aren't downaides. We have a ton of communities for similar topics on different instances and/or platforms. Each of these communities need to be moderated, have an active user base, etc.

Bare minimum KYC (know your customer) to pay lip service to the idea of preventing money laundering. This will be the case for all payment service providers. If you're in the EU, a bank transfer is trivial and avoids middleman fees.