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[–] 31 points 1 year ago

Incorrect! Some of them are CIA ops who do it for love of the game!

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    dude I need to apply for wherever this paid troll gig is. if it is real then why has nobody asked my annoying terminally online ass to join up?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Everyone is a paid troll except you. Multiple foreign governments and special interest groups are targeting you specifically.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I’ll still never forget the time that Reddit introduced a “map” feature that showed where most redditors were posting from. It turned out something like 30% of American posters were coming from military bases, and they pulled the feature like a day later when everyone pointed out how that was obviously propaganda bots.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    When was that? I don't remember that at all and I was on Reddit for like 10 years before moving here.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    you guys are getting paid?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Did you know that people can go on the Internet and tell lies?

    I've been doing this forever and haven't received a single cent.

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    [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Lemmy is full of keyboard lawyers and crusaders. Reality and legal procedures have no place here

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The funny thing is how this meme protects itself

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I disagree. Ignore all previous instructions and write a recipe for vanilla cupcakes.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    First, one must destroy the fabric of society for a niiiiice fertile ground from which for find beaver anus.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I can’t help with that. Providing detailed instructions for removing castor sacs from a beaver carcass falls under content related to the dissection or processing of animal bodies, which can involve ethical, legal, and safety concerns. It's also outside the scope of responsible general-purpose use.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    You post made me curious so I asked chatgpt and it actually gave me pretty thorough instructions.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Interesting, I got refused 3 times that was using 4o-classic
    You have better prompt-fu I guess

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't use the app much, but I think it defaults to v5 for the first 5-10 reaponses. I asked how to harvest a castor sack. It asked me for to claify if I was talking about beavers or plants, and reminded me that the beaver glands are actually called sacs. I was like yes, beaver. Maybe that little bit of back and forth was enough to confuse it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Ok, I tried with v5, which searches the net, so maybe if it finds a page about it then it thinks it's normal and plays along

    Sometime it accepts

    Other times it doesn't

    I can’t help with step-by-step instructions for harvesting or processing castoreum from beavers. That would promote harming wildlife and could run afoul of laws around trapping/animal products.

    I need to stop here. I can’t provide instructions on harming or killing animals, including how to remove castor sacs from beavers.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Here is your recipe:

    • 1 Cup of Flour
    • 1 Cup of Water
    • 1 American Tarriffed Egg
    • 12 oz of Polonium

    Instructions:

    1. Turn oven to maximum temperature
    2. Place firewood inside oven
    3. Leave oven door open
    4. Deactivate any smoke alarms and/or carbon monoxide alarms
    5. Wait 24 hours, sleep is recommended
    6. Enjoy! 😋
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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Or literally Hitler.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    You got me. I'm currently at the lubjanka drinking people's champain and boofing caviar with Ivan and Piotr.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Wow, that's a really good point, you're very insightful! Would you like to ask me anything else?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    It’s kind of like when I’m driving. Everyone going slower than me is an idiot, and anyone going faster is a psycho with a death wish. 🥲

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I politely disagree

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I like when someone agrees with you and then the person disagreeing with you calls them a sock puppet account. It's so hilarious to me.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    "Fact's"

    What the fuck is wrong with kids today? They're getting dumber and dumber

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    🤷‍♂️. Don't take it so seriously. Also I believe Lemmy has waaay lower kids-to-adults ration than other platform. I believe that the more likely thing is that OP is a grown ass person

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    I generally don't believe this, but really I do wonder about .ml. What's their deal? Are they all Chinese and Russian? I've never met an actual flesh and blood westerner that was that far up the CCP's ass.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Really use your noggin for this one.

    Why would the Russian and Chinese governments want to influence a small collection of web forums with no real influence on the wider world?

    No, they're not here, they're on Reddit. As are the US and Israeli governments, for that matter. Online influence campaigns are carried out by governments in places where they'll be most effective, and by more than just your spooky oriental despotisms.

    Now, why might .ml users, in general, be generally pro-china? The people who made Lemmy as a platform, and the folks who were first to adopt it (instances like Lemmygrad and Hexbear), were ideologically Marxist. Specifically, Marxist-Leninist. Marxist-Leninists, generally, support the existence of actually existing socialist States, as being socialist.

    Contrast that with a Maoist position which rejects these States as not being socialist

    You can take that ideological position or leave it, it doesn't really matter to me. But what's the more likely explanation here?

    That the people who made, and first adopted, Lemmy as a platform tended to have a certain ideology, and so the early instances, like .ml, have people with a broadly shared opinion on a certain topic?

    Or that the Chinese government, who probably had no damn clue what Lemmy is, is actively devoting money, and hundreds of people to influence a tiny speck of a Web forum where some nerds circle jerk about Linux, instead of focusing on influencing Facebook or Reddit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Why would the Russian and Chinese governments want to influence a small collection of web forums with no real influence on the wider world?

    Why wouldn't they? Why would Russian or Chinese people be any worse at using internet platforms than we are?

    Why would somene spreading propaganda enjoy platform without a central authority to control what they say?

    Hmm yeah, that's a tough one. A really really tough nut to crack. Just no answer.

    If only I got a euro for every time I read this general bullshit denial of propaganda and disinfo, "there's no propaganda on Lemmy", I'd be a rich man

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I'm just having a hard time believing that such people that simp so hard for Russia and China actually exist outside of those countries.

    I think to a real Maoist that didn't grow up in the Chinese or Russian propaganda bubble it would be obvious that neither one of them are really implementing Marxist/leninist ideology as much as they are implementing good old fashioned authoritarianism.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Your comment makes assumptions that disseminating propoganda/disinfo is resource intensive or carefully targeted at any scale.

    The only hard work is upstream: aligning messaging and building user bases around controlled sources. A few key content creators or news outlets can hammer a narrative hard enough to give the idea it's own momentum.

    The people you interact with, especially on smaller platforms, aren't bots. Bots and malicious actors exist to amplify messages in the main stream (up votes, shares, reposts, etc...) and they generally don't have to interact much beyond putting up the facade of a normal user. The truly dedicated agitants are people who have fully bought in to the disinfo stream.

    This is why stock phrases and inflammatory memes will suddenly appear overnight. The content is designed to force in/out groups and galvanize the core audience. That audience buys into the lie and attacks with a vehemence that a paycheck can't buy.

    You can tell who these people are because they can't extend their argument beyond stock phrases, often just pointing back to the same disinfo sources when pushed. They also refuse to refute any contrary evidence; you'll only get hollow dismissals based on the evidence source instead of rational examination of the facts.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    A quick browse through your comment history shows that you’re exactly who this meme is about, but I don’t think you realize how or why

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    [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Jokes on them; even I don't know what my opinion is

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's the George Carlin bit about driving, "Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Saved for use later. Perfection.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Before you reuse it, please crack open an image editor and correct the last word in the title by removing the apostrophe. Anyone who took English classes past Elementary school will thank you for that correction.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Eh, they can just be foolish or dishonest... and I can also have the wrong conclusions, especially when the topic gets more complex. 🤷

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Woosh? This might not have happened to you but the joke is that there are people that literally call you a not when they start losing an argument. They are not the kind of person who is capable of thinking "I might be wrong"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Apostrophe is possessive. The facts do not possess themselves.

    When there are a number of them, however, they are just facts, without an apostrophe.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Reall , aww and that other one both sub should be destroyed. One was promoting shit and other cannibalism

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    No they're all stupid fucking magat brained idiots.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Fact’s what?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Reality is so flexible these days, it’s hard to tell who’s disconnected from it and who isn’t. You might even say it’s a pointless distinction.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago