I feel like Black Books was very underrated. A drunken Irish misanthrope runs a bookshop with an idiot for a sidekick
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Garth Marenghi's Darkplace: '80s BBC horror drama satire from the early '00s, and I think it used to be more popular but has fallen out of the zeitgeist just based on its age, space ghost: coast to coast.
I think it was a satire less of BBC horror drama and more of author-branded spooky anthology series like The Ray Bradbury Theater and Roald Dahl's Tales of the Unexpected. But done by someone who's part terrible horror author like Shaun Hutson, part terrible 80s action movie hero. (Full disclosure, I would read Hutson schlock like Slugs etc as a kid in the 80s.)
But that's just my tuppence.
Started rewatching it last month, saving the last episode.
I think it's going to get more attention now because it's finally been released on streaming (Peacock in the US IIRC).
I've still never seen the spin-off, Man to Man with Dean Learner
I think you're right, it reminded me of watching Dark Shadows and other similarly written and shot old soap opera reruns with my grandma. But it's really closer to the horror anthology single creator style like the influences you mentioned. There's an in-character commentary track too that's pretty good
I think the choice of a hospital in particular may have been influenced by the 1994 show Riget, directed by Lars von Trier, which was brought to English-speaking countries under the name The Kingdom (not to be confused with the 2014 show about MMA fighters someone else mentioned in a thread here). It's a horror show set in a hospital, and also kind of a soap opera, and also it's kind of supposed to be funny sometimes? That show...I guess I felt like it tried very hard, but also that conspicuous effort isn't a good look for something that's supposed to be unsettling. Which is kinda the feeling that Garth Marenghi's Dark Place takes the piss out of so effectively. I dunno, maybe it's my imagination, but I can't help but see them as connected.
Loved Space Ghost: Coast to Coast and Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
I just discovered this one for the first time myself. It is the apotheosis of stupid TV, pitch perfect in so many ways.
That show was a hoot. I couldn’t get into Garth’s recent novels though. ☹️
Asbo X-Men was a lot of fun, Robert Sheehan was really good in it
I was gonna mention Misfits. I enjoyed they show, but the quality dropped after they finish the time travel loop storyline.
Scavengers Reign
Farscape
I was thinking about this but seems to popular to fit. I mean I feel its like mentioning tos although I but many star trek fans likely have never seen it so maybe they fit.
And for many people, they can watch it free now on streaming services like Plex, so they have no excuse not to!
I'm about to finish my rewatch of season 3, "the season of death".
they got slightly recognition after moving to SG1. i would say sg1/sga/sgu and farscape still are pretty niche as not as popular after 2010, since it disappeared before then.
Dead Like Me
On that note, Pushing Daisies.
Better off ted deserved more than what it got.
The Shield is an amazing, gritty series about The Strike Team, a special unit in an LA police department. The writing is tight, the story threads are engaging, and the end of every episode makes you want to immediately start another one just to see how it all plays out. It was seven seasons long, and they all connect from the first episode to the last one.
It’s on Hulu in the US, and well worth the watch.
We recently watched, overlapping, The Shield and The Commish. The contrast between Chiklis's two roles was astounding!
It was seven seasons long, and they all connect from the first episode to the last one.
That finale, so well done, so unjust 🤌🧑🍳😘
Oh man I watched that show a very long time ago, idk probably close to 15 years at this point. But holy cow some scenes have stuck with me. It is fantastic and I need to give it a go again
Utopia (Brittish version), interesting cinematography vis-a-vis colour usage, quirky soundtrack and amazing dialogue. Not sure if this counts as obscure though.
Tried to watch this and the school shooting scene turned me off of it.
I liked "the colony", but apparently I was the only person to do so.
I loved the first season but the 2nd was rough.
The Magicians (2016): It often gets pitched as "Hogwarts for adults" because it features a magic college/university, but honestly that is just the initial backdrop and a massive undersell.
It is the rare show where the creators were seemingly handed a blank cheque to be as creative as they want to be, and they make full use of that in more ways than I can list here (but which definitely includes both the magic system itself, and the hilarious nonchalance towards the consequences of magic being a reality); yet all the while, they stay true and fiercely loyal to their characters, who are all deeply flawed, but which you can't help but want to see succeed; plus they managed to write genuinely great humor.
The best summary of the show comes from one of the characters themselves: "Magic doesn't come from talent. It comes from pain."
Be warned: the first few episodes, and possibly the first season, are the weakest and roughest of the bunch, which probably really hampered viewership. They do still manage to find their own tone, but it's nothing compared to seasons 3-5.
I think it's based on a book, so the series creators might've been less creative than you think, but an interesting watch nonetheless
It is, and I read them. The series creators were very faithful to the general feeling and atmosphere of the books, but most of the plotlines and character beats are show-only. Makes for two very different (but both good!) stories.
The audiobooks gave a real sense of loneliness and not fitting in/trying to find a place.
I loved them but probably will never revisit them.
Was reading the text like that too? I ask because I rarely read actual novels anymore and wonder how much the narration colored it for me.
That's a pretty apt description, I'd say! Getting everything you ever wanted and still feeling like you don't belong and cannot be happy.
IDK if you've seen the show, but if not: that's definitely still a big theme there, but while it is never dropped completely, it is alleviated somewhat because the characters grow closer as a group than they did in the books. Can highly recommend both.
At least one of the book writers once mentioned how the show was more creative than they were. They were really impressed with how the keys were used.
I'd also like to point out how good the use of music was on Due South. Bloody amazing soundtracks and it's OST CD is still on my playlists.
https://open.spotify.com/album/4uXAntan98PFUvOUhcKuVq
Technically a remake of the 2013 UK show of the same name, but I had never seen or heard of it - so I went into the US version blind and I absolutely loved it.
Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency (2016)
Similar to the above, a UK TV show preceded this one; both based on a Douglas Adam’s (Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy) novel series.
I loved Utopia so much, We just came across it and couldn't stop until it was over.
The soundtrack by Cristobal Tapai de Veer is pretty great too and was a big part of what made it so memorable to me.
Red Dwarf
That’s not niche, is it ?
Pretty sure outside of scifi circles it's niche. I can think of maybe two people I know that may possibly have heard of it.
At least in the US. It must have been more popular across the ocean
So literally the most well known UK sitcom of the late 1980s?
Where I'm at (US), it's not well known.
It's a skit comedy show but The Upright Citizens Brigade was hilarious! In the vein of The State or Kids in the Hall.
Common side effects was good. Its on adult swim so maybe not that obscure but I don't see it talked a whole lot about. Older things would be police story and hill street blues which because they don't rely on special effects have aged well. Its interesting to watch things like cop shows from the 70's and 80's as while they might not show exact reality of cops form the time its just amazing to see how we expected cops to behave compared to now.
Obscure because it comes from my country but
Kim’s convenience is an amazing show. Like fucking incredible! Netflix had a the diffusion right for a time but I don’t know if they have it anymore, exactly like the next suggestion (this one is in French)
Série Noire where two writers tried to write a crime story and get embroiled with the … gay mafia. Personally I prefer Les invincibles
Not obsucure (still consider one of the pioneers in New Waves documentaries) but I cannot help myself, Pierre Perrault’s Shimmering Beast and Pour la Suite du Monde (for the next world, the link have English subtitles) where he investigates what it is to be Québécois, to be human in the modernity
Lie to Me, and Battle Creek.
Both shows had their strengths and weaknesses but I found both entertaining for different reasons. Lie to Me had a slow burn romance subplot that never quite came to fruition.
Battle Creek was funny and silly and I always got the feeling the actors were having fun making it.
Banished - I wanted a second season so badly
Peep Show - Peak cringe humor. One of the best shows ever.
Peep Show was absolutely epic and is utterly unique. For the uninitiated, every single camera shot is from the perspective of one of the characters which is where it gets its name. One of my favourite shows ever.
If you haven't seen it drop everything right now and start. This is where Olivia Coleman started out and she's brilliant but there are so many great characters.
Peep Show
They're making a new sketch show again, at least sketch is already on YouTube
Mission Hill. It was 90s era animated sitcom that was taken off the air before the first season finished, resulting in the last few episodes never getting animated.
Today it stands as a really engaging period piece, and if you ever wanted to see Spongebob (Tom Kenny) as a flamboyant gay man or a violent teenage ne'er-do-well it's well worth the seven or so episodes.
Mr Robot. It did well but I don't know anyone that's seen it.
I’ve seen the first and the first half of the second, the second kill it for me however
Seasons 3 and 4 are amazing, and the last episode has an amazing twist.
I’d just skip past season 2 if you don’t like it.
Sports Night was a late 90s comedy-drama about a nightly sports show like Sportscenter.
Great characters, good storylines and created by Aaron Sorkin post-West Wing, so really good writing
a likely story; it was a reading show on wcvb (like reading rainbow) about a woman - alison martin - who was a librarian who drove a bookmobile around and read to kids. i watched it every day.
https://collection.oldfilm.org/Detail/occurrences/56859
https://oldfilm.org/more-than-the-news-programming-from-wcvb/
Terra Nova (2011)
That show had such a strong premise, the first episode was amazing. Then it's like they forgot what the show was actually about and made it a soap opera. I just don't understand how writers can look at a setting with things like dinosaurs, time travel, and colony survival and go "You know what the audience would really like as a main plot point? Generic family conflict between two parents, their angsty teenage son and daughter, and the 5-year old they keep leaving unsupervised. THATS what the people want! Definitely not dinosaurs, or a sci-fi survival in a prehistoric wilderness."
They turned it around by the end of the season, but the damage was already done. Too many people got turned off by the cheesy dialog and the almost complete lack of dinosaurs post episode 1.
Agreed, it had sooo much more potentially. It's almost the same as what happened to Ark (2023).
I just need a show like SG-1 (1997) again! Thankfully Foundation (2021) & Invasion (2021) are filling that gap.
Are you talking about "the ark" (2023) about the survivors of Ark 1, or a different show?
Because if you are talking about "the ark" it's barely gotten better.
They still focus waaaaay too much on nerd guy and nerd girl drama while still giving them the worst dialogue and character traits.
I think loads of studio & network execs back then were like "how can we make everything into a Lost-style shaggy dog story?"
Watched a few episodes of La Brea recently and I'm getting similar vibes.
Galavant, at least the first season, the second season wasn’t as good. It’s fun. It’s hilarious. It’s a musical.
Mr Inbetween. Brilliant from the start to the very last scene. Everyone who watches it thinks its superb. Getting them to actually start watching it is hard work.
Love/Hate. Irish gangster show. I felt it got better each season. Loved the unhinged & dangerously unpredictable Fran (Peter Coonan).
First few seasons of Italian mob show Gomorrah were amazing but I think some were put off by it being in Italian language (fine with me as I'm an English speaker but watch everything including English language shows with subtitles on)
Penny dreadful - https://youtu.be/YFXHfEqMcis
Amazing story
chef!
the secret life of machines
clerks the animated series
miranda
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