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[–] 53 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Not american, I get this Gavin person is governor of California, but what's going on here?

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  • [–] 134 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He is trolling Trump and his supporters by tweeting like trump. Cracker barrel is a chain that caters to more senior citizens. it has a very old school, very iconic logo that defied all trends in design for the last 50 years. They tried to change it, got a huge backlash, so they cancelled the change, Trump obviously claimed this as a personal victory, so Newsom did the same, and some people apparently can't detect trolling.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I just don't know enough about American politicians to be able to tell that it's a joke. With the stuff we see coming out of that country, it's not unreasonable to think that was a serious tweet.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Totally right. The subtlety here is that the source of the nonsense tweets this way. This particular account is mocking them by imitating. The hilarious part (at least for me and OP) is that the mockery went right over their heads.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago

    Gavin Newsom is trolling trump by saying and typing things just like trump. In this particular one, he took credit for something he knows wasn't him. A MAGA dude thought he meant it and called Newsom stupid. Newsom is saying the MAGAS are too stupid to get it. Newsom didn't even type all caps, he's probably tired of acting like a narcissist.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

    An anti-trans wealthy right-of-center politician is duping Democrat voters into giving him attention ahead of being nominated for president.

    No, he's not "trolling" Trump or MAGA, he's not "pushing back". The only thing these tweets have any impact on are Democrat voters. He's performing for them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    Having an attack dog in your corner is not a bad thing. He can draw attention away from real potential candidates for the Republican smear machine to focus on.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yeah, no, I'd rather not have him show his stupid face at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    this is wokescold purity testing, and it's exactly why we have Trump now. Because wokescolds prioritized some future microaggressions instead of the very real, immediate Fascist reality and decided to dumb things like "protest vote" for Warren, or just not show up.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It's not a purity testing to have actual fucking standards and not let a LITERAL FUCKING TRANSPHOBE have the limelight. Stop throwing trans people under the bus for the guise of pragmatism, you're not fooling anyone.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Oh cool, trans people are soooo much more protected now. I'm sure all the Trans people who got ejected from military, losing all their benefits feel so much more protected now. All the girls having to submit to "genital inspections" for sports probably all thank you for "having standards".

    Hey, but at least you got to give it to people like Kamala and Newsome for not being pure enough for you.

    Wokescold bullshit. In your effort to gatekeep the left, you let fascists take over. Good job.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I'm gonna break down your nonsense in parts because it is too absurd to even bother countering.

    • Gavin Newsom isn't the presidential candidate, therefore, we can criticize and tell him to fuck off as much as we want.
    • Claiming disliking someone who doesn't believe in human rights for certain people helps Trump is fucking asinine. How is believing in human rights going to help Trump? Please explain to me. There's a difference between a candidate not being perfect and a candidate being a literal photocopy of the opposition.
    • All of those things would happen under Newsom as well because HE IS ALSO TRANSPHOBIC.
    • Kamala lost because she appealed to the inexistent "moderate republican" and preferred to take money from a genocidal ethnostate than listen to their base.
    • Human rights for certain people are not negotiable for the sake of "beating fascism". Negotiating human rights with fascists make you a fascist.

    I "didn't let fascists take over". YOU did by alienating those you needed to win because you thought they weren't important. Unlike you, some people have a spine, and lines they won't cross. The bar for Newsom is fucking underground and he can't even go over it.

    Stop manufacturing consent for Blue Trump because he makes posts you find funny.

    EDIT: also, anyone who uses "wokescold" as a word is not worth listening to. Fuck off, blue MAGA.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Cool, all the trans people can thank you for your spine as we're all being rounded up by ICE.

    Forest and trees and all that shit. You're hopeless. You're no one's ally but to yourself, your ego and pride.

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  • [–] [M] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hey, you two seem to be having an animated discussion, but it's still a discussion. I appreciate that. This comment is getting into hating on the user territory by calling them hopeless. This is a warning.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    So, let me get this straight. I call out a person playing defense for fascists by scoring into own goal, call them useless, I get a warning.... But they are literally all caps screaming, cursing, throwing unsubstantiated insults and calling me transphobic because I'm not being zealous enough.... still posting.

    Make it make sense.

    EDIT: LOL, their bio literally admits that they're only on Lemmy because they got banned multiple times from Reddit for being violent... and here they are, on Lemmy, screaming, cursing, losing their shit... learning nothing.... not banned.

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  • [–] [M] 2 points 1 year ago

    This is tough on me. I'm not trans so I don't understand all the nuances. Plus, I agree with you, so I'm hesitant because I might be biased. They reported you awhile ago. I really thought you two were making good points and discussing. I might just lock the thread.

    Again, I agree with you. I don't think they're trolling, I think they're angry and don't want to be wrong. I've fought with them myself and was on your side.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Don't blame trans people for YOU abandoning them for the sake of pragmatism. GAVIN decided to abandon trans people. The fact you're playing cover for him makes you transphobic. He's not the candidate yet. This isn't about ego and pride, this is about ELECTING SOMEONE WHO ISN'T A FUCKING BIGOT. THAT'S THE BAR. IT IS LITERALLY UNDERGROUND.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'm gong to give you a warning. I think you're fighting with another trans person, please don't call them transphobic. You both have been making great points, don't let anger take over your discussion. This is a warning.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And you are free to continue wishing for dumb things that won't happen.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    I don't like this liberal attitude that we need to not have standards and tolerate transphobia and hostility against the homeless to be able to beat Trump at some point. You either cross the finish line with everyone or you don't do it at all.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago

    Not american either, I think we others can care about US politics when it's affecting the rest of the world, but we really dont have to understand or care about every shopping mall chain's logo, even if their politicians fight about it. So please, go ahead while we're waiting for results regarding Ukraine, Gaza, tariffs and that elite pedophile ring of yours.

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    • [–] 86 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Man, it's hard to figure out what's more pathetic: their complete inability to process satire of the fact that they lost their shit this hard over a minimalist logo.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    The minimalist logo, it's beyond stupid on a baseline. Don't get me wrong it looks kinda shit and I would've gone for the retro old West type face they originally had but still, throwing that level of piss fit over a damned logo is... Pathetic.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The logo shit is manufactured to keep the news off of important shit; before that it was the Sydney Sweeny ad, next week it'll be something else

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    • [–] 120 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I smile every time a Republican gets trolled by Newsom.

    Honestly, a small chunk of the DNC should just be dedicated to keeping Republicans enthralled (with Newsom leading that subteam) while the rest of the Democrats do proper work organizing country wide for 2026.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Walz was much better at this. Newsom's "Look at me! I'm Trump!" routine is getting old quick.

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    • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Is this like a cracker barrel viral advertising blitz?

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    • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    🚨My IQ is room temperature at best.

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    • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    I almost understand the appeal of Trump now

    Gavin is OWNING THE CONS and now they have Gavin Derangement Syndrome

    I've ironically been telling my Right Wing friends that he's my new messiah and adopting Trump's speech patterns... and I actually had to explain the joke to them when they failed to notice I was acting unusual and instead just kept shitting on Gavin for being associated with California (no other reason)

    It's fun seeing them get so mad over his being a garbage person and pretending the problem is with them for not "getting it man"

    Does MAGA know Trump is shit and they've just been gaslighting everyone this whole time? Naw that can't be it

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    [+] 27 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Good news. He isn't running his own Twitter.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    How is this funny? Imitating Trump's ranting style does not make him look satirical, it makes him look like a total dipshit cause Trump's rants are fucking stupid and nonsensical and anyone who tries to imitate it even in a satirical manner looks unhinged.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Parody is a pretty common form of comedy. Like sure it’s kind of depressing that he is imitating a president and acting like that.

    But like there was a whole episode of 30 Rock which is a sitcom from 15 years ago about them doing the same thing

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    • [–] [M] 8 points 1 year ago

    I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread. The fights going on are way over my pay grade and it's 2 days old. Rule 5 my friends.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Just like Donny.

    You’ve got to be kidding me. I grew up in California during Newsom and Harris’ rise to power.

    As uninspiring as they are, this approach has highlighted Trump’s ridiculous communication style in a way that has not been challenged to date.

    We can dive into actual policy if you want.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He's a transphobe that would gladly put homeless people in a woodchipper.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Agreed that sicking the cops on homeless people is bad policy, and doing that in response to a court ruling without plan to actually help people is egregious. Does seem like he took an opportunity to disguise a NIMBY directive behind a court ruling.

    Transphobe though? What he diverges on the specific issue of trans women/girls in gender protected sports divisions and we just have to throw out everything else he’s supported or signed laws for trans and gay rights in the last 20 years?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Nobody has challenged Trump's communication style before? Really??

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    A sitting governor doing carbon copy satire of Trump’s exact style? No that has not been done before to my knowledge.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why in gods name would we need this? How is this helping? Can we not just be fucking serious for a second here?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    “The same as Donny” is the issue.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Something something California uber alles

    Nothing new exists... yeah Ronald Reagan is objectively worse than governer moonbeam but brown picked up the same mantle. Hypothetical example newsome runs for pres, wins and he paints the wall white but doesn't tear it down.

    Nah he's not an overt fascist, not the same as Donny in that way, but he is not an answer to fascism either. We need radical change

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I would back a progressive candidate as hard as you can in the primary if possible.

    Newsom has a similar vibe problem as Harris where people outside of California don’t really know them or like them much.

    Personally I say fuck anyone from CA or NY (except AOC) we need a candidate from somewhere else more down to earth.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If the options in November 2028 come down to Newsom vs Trump (or whoever is his puppet), I'm still voting for Newsom. I won't be happy about it, but if we can't get a real progressive through the primaries, I'm still voting against the GOP and for the non-GOP candidate with the best chance of winning.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    If the dems think a conservative candidate win, they will ratfuck progressives again, which is how we got Trump both times.

    We need to make it absolutely clear that under no circumstances can the DNC let a conservative win the primary because they will lose the general. We did "yes, we know he sucks, but this is the most important election ever" with Biden, and he showed an entire generation that the dems are not an effective means to enacting positive social change, giving us back Trump.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    He platforms Charlie Kirk on his podcast, and his record for how he treats policy in relation to prisons is pretty shit. In 2022 he vetoed a bill that would end indefinite solitary confinement because, ya know, that makes sense. He’s a self-important loud-mouth who’s doing funny things in regards to attack Trump but absolutely is not what the US needs right now. They to yank that needle to the left and all they’re being offered is centrists and conservatives who don’t like to stir the pot even while fascism is fully present in their country.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I suppose Newsom may win the presidency in 2028, and then caretake the country while doing the minimum for 4 to 8 years.

    Just in time for another gop to win after that, and drive the USA to the brink of ruin even more than Trump

    Back and forth. Same pattern the last two decades or more

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Thing is once Trump's gone the GOP will be in crisis. The movement is not about ideals but the man himself

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Fascist movements do not end when a leader goes.

    And while the gop will be splintered, they will coalesce, eventually, in time to elect someone we will curse in the 2030s

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    [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    trump is cringe, conservatives on twitter are cringe, gavin is cringe.

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    • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Now I want cracker barrel breakfast.

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    He's so far above their heads they can't even see him.

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    • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Praise be!!!🧨🧨🧨✝️✝️✝️Gavin is good!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️🇱🇷🇱🇷🇱🇷

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