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They still don't get it (discuss.online)
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[–] -3 points 1 year ago* (14 children)

An anti-trans wealthy right-of-center politician is duping Democrat voters into giving him attention ahead of being nominated for president.

No, he's not "trolling" Trump or MAGA, he's not "pushing back". The only thing these tweets have any impact on are Democrat voters. He's performing for them.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (13 children)

    Having an attack dog in your corner is not a bad thing. He can draw attention away from real potential candidates for the Republican smear machine to focus on.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Yeah, no, I'd rather not have him show his stupid face at all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    this is wokescold purity testing, and it's exactly why we have Trump now. Because wokescolds prioritized some future microaggressions instead of the very real, immediate Fascist reality and decided to dumb things like "protest vote" for Warren, or just not show up.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    It's not a purity testing to have actual fucking standards and not let a LITERAL FUCKING TRANSPHOBE have the limelight. Stop throwing trans people under the bus for the guise of pragmatism, you're not fooling anyone.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Oh cool, trans people are soooo much more protected now. I'm sure all the Trans people who got ejected from military, losing all their benefits feel so much more protected now. All the girls having to submit to "genital inspections" for sports probably all thank you for "having standards".

    Hey, but at least you got to give it to people like Kamala and Newsome for not being pure enough for you.

    Wokescold bullshit. In your effort to gatekeep the left, you let fascists take over. Good job.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    I'm gonna break down your nonsense in parts because it is too absurd to even bother countering.

    • Gavin Newsom isn't the presidential candidate, therefore, we can criticize and tell him to fuck off as much as we want.
    • Claiming disliking someone who doesn't believe in human rights for certain people helps Trump is fucking asinine. How is believing in human rights going to help Trump? Please explain to me. There's a difference between a candidate not being perfect and a candidate being a literal photocopy of the opposition.
    • All of those things would happen under Newsom as well because HE IS ALSO TRANSPHOBIC.
    • Kamala lost because she appealed to the inexistent "moderate republican" and preferred to take money from a genocidal ethnostate than listen to their base.
    • Human rights for certain people are not negotiable for the sake of "beating fascism". Negotiating human rights with fascists make you a fascist.

    I "didn't let fascists take over". YOU did by alienating those you needed to win because you thought they weren't important. Unlike you, some people have a spine, and lines they won't cross. The bar for Newsom is fucking underground and he can't even go over it.

    Stop manufacturing consent for Blue Trump because he makes posts you find funny.

    EDIT: also, anyone who uses "wokescold" as a word is not worth listening to. Fuck off, blue MAGA.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (5 children)

    Cool, all the trans people can thank you for your spine as we're all being rounded up by ICE.

    Forest and trees and all that shit. You're hopeless. You're no one's ally but to yourself, your ego and pride.

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  • [–] [M] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Hey, you two seem to be having an animated discussion, but it's still a discussion. I appreciate that. This comment is getting into hating on the user territory by calling them hopeless. This is a warning.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    So, let me get this straight. I call out a person playing defense for fascists by scoring into own goal, call them useless, I get a warning.... But they are literally all caps screaming, cursing, throwing unsubstantiated insults and calling me transphobic because I'm not being zealous enough.... still posting.

    Make it make sense.

    EDIT: LOL, their bio literally admits that they're only on Lemmy because they got banned multiple times from Reddit for being violent... and here they are, on Lemmy, screaming, cursing, losing their shit... learning nothing.... not banned.

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  • [–] [M] 2 points 1 year ago

    This is tough on me. I'm not trans so I don't understand all the nuances. Plus, I agree with you, so I'm hesitant because I might be biased. They reported you awhile ago. I really thought you two were making good points and discussing. I might just lock the thread.

    Again, I agree with you. I don't think they're trolling, I think they're angry and don't want to be wrong. I've fought with them myself and was on your side.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Don't blame trans people for YOU abandoning them for the sake of pragmatism. GAVIN decided to abandon trans people. The fact you're playing cover for him makes you transphobic. He's not the candidate yet. This isn't about ego and pride, this is about ELECTING SOMEONE WHO ISN'T A FUCKING BIGOT. THAT'S THE BAR. IT IS LITERALLY UNDERGROUND.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'm gong to give you a warning. I think you're fighting with another trans person, please don't call them transphobic. You both have been making great points, don't let anger take over your discussion. This is a warning.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    And you are free to continue wishing for dumb things that won't happen.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago

    I don't like this liberal attitude that we need to not have standards and tolerate transphobia and hostility against the homeless to be able to beat Trump at some point. You either cross the finish line with everyone or you don't do it at all.

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