Mark Wahlberg makes my skin crawl
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Ray Romano
He reason that Gene Hackman gave up acting, also he right wing asshole.
Pretty much every comic who guested as one of Dr. Katz's patients can count that appearance among their best work. I loved that show so much, and not enough people know about it anymore.
That's because they were all doing their best comic routines against another excellent comic. They could tweak the timing and the delivery and do all their best stuff as good as it can be done to the best possible audience. The premise was perfect for it.
They can do that in movies and other TV shows too...
I suppose comics have done that. Like Seinfeld worked bits into the show, especially in the early seasons. But that was all Jerry's stand up. Roseanne was the same early on, many of the sitcom premises and monologues were from Barr's stand up routines. But it was never like weekly guests got an opportunity to film and edit a tight five. I honestly can't think of another movie or show that did it, except maybe talk shows? But then it's still a performance in front of an audience. You can't workshop a line or a pause during the Late Show, unless it's a satirical talk show like Between Two Ferns or Eric Andre.
pratt, rob machlenny, despite him making isaip, hes really super pretentious iRL which also translated to his show. watched his interviews has given over the pandemic and beond, and hes been collaborating with questionable people, luke ryan reynold and mannings, in order to mooch of people in hollywood.
Chris Pratt
He went downhill after parks and rec
The internet made him his darling and then turned on him pretty quickly, a similar thing to what most female stars face, such as Jennifer Lawrence hugely had to deal with in the 2010s. Not that I'm fond of the guy, but this his internet attitude stinks and I think has coloured his image since. However:
He's had a really strange rise to fame. He was in Parks and Rec as the lovable goofball type, then the US army literally put him in Zero Dark Thirty (a film with unbelievable rewriting and military control) to be a recruiting tool, "Even Andy from Parks and Rec can Kill Bin Laden." Even though he was put on the map by nationalist military propaganda, I don't blame him for that.
He also attends a church (Zoe Church) which was modelled of an openly homophobic church (Hillsong), and founded by a former pastor of the homophobic church, although this church specifically has no open statement on LGBTQ+ people. This church and it's pastor are absolutely suspiciously absent on this stance, to the point many assume it's homophobic and transphobic but in LA and not wanting the backlash, particularly as the pastor has funded a Christian film, The heart of Man, that has an openly homophobic messages.
There was also a controversy with his wife and ex-wife that I think was more of a fuck up than anything else. He parted with his first wife who he'd been with since before his fame, not long after she had a baby that was born premature. He then married again and announced his gratitude for a healthy child. Obviously people didn't like this, but I don't think he meant it how it comes across. People also feel he showed disloyalty to his first wife in leaving her once famous, but even if fame did change him, that's still a forgivable reason for parting ways with someone.
Although I don't avoid movies with Pratt, I feel he wants to be funny like Robin Williams, and a hero like Harrison Ford, without the charm or wit to come close to either. What we're left with is a bland, typecast actor who feels he'd abandon any tolerance and compassion in his image if it stopped being in vogue, but maybe we just want to see him fall from grace.
essentially a nepo-actor, through his wife, and he acts like MC when it comes to roles and "surprise" hes a supporter of alt-right groups.
Every time I see his bad acting, Im just like ”why is this dude so popular and why is he landing these big roles?”
Yup. He and Ben Affleck are movie killers for me. If I see them on the trailer, I know it’s a movie I should just avoid.
I feel the opposite. I want to hate him so badly, but he's a good actor. Like I was absolutely furious about his casting in Interview with a Vampire, then he killed it, was gaunt and vampire as hell. He is not good looking to me and seems a shit person, but my goodness he can act.
He can act. He was good in Legend and great in Interview with a Vampire. Shame he's a terrible person.
I don't like Tom Cruise but at this point I don't even remember why. Is he a shit head?
That, and pretty much every movie he’s in these days are just an ego based adrenalin rush designed by and for himself. All the parts he plays just come off as “Tom Cruise half heartedly pretending to be X”.
I really like "The Last Samurai" despite Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise
I feel that's old enough not to be in the Tom Cruise produced issue area. In the 2000s, he was in War of the worlds, Collateral, The Last Samurai and even showed he still had range in Magnolia, Vanilla Sky and even Tropic Thunder. It wasn't quite the same as the 90s where he was cast in a huge range of great roles, and it definitely became less common over the 00s.
I'd say from 2010 onwards, he's stared in 0 films that don't feel warped to be an advert for his specific style of masculinity. Even if one was good, Edge of Tomorrow, it's still a Tom Cruise movie.
That and making your wives sign a contract waiver (beyond a prenup) is fucked up.
Gal Godot.
I'm very impressed with Lemmy here for not doing what Reddit would have and naming a long list of women. That being said, if I didn't feel a moral obligation to boycott Gal Godot, she is so talentless that she hasn't made anyone else's list because it's such a low hanging fruit.
I agree. The first Wonder Woman was ok, but she's so stiff in everything since.
she was stiff in WW too, but it worked because the whole side plot was that she's never met human beings and doesn't know how to interact with them. also she's like a demigod so being devoid of emotions doesn't look that weird on a character like that. they played to their strengths.
most issues with movies about acting are actually issues about casting. i love Keanu, but he's also stiff. but that worked perfectly his best roles: johnny mnemonic, constantine and of course neo. even john wick worked mostly because he's built up for the first half of the movie as a mythical, inhuman force of nature.
so yeah for that particular rendition of wonder woman, great choice: she looks like a demigod; she acts like she's never seen a human before. perfect.
for anything else, please kill me so i don't have to suffer through this scene.
Oh god. Snow-white's failure is mostly her fault.
Jack Black. Seems like a nice dude, but he’s a an annoying presence in every movie he’s in. His is the definition of a “sweat act”.
He turned his back on his bandmate after said bandmate made a joke about wishing Trump got assassinated, and he condemned palestine for standing up to their oppressors. He's a shitlib at best
To be fair, the only Palestine comments I've seen were from immediately after Oct 7, when that was a fairly reasonable take.
Still though, total sellout. Tenacious D defined my adolescence and it's really disheartening to watch JB heel turn after tasting that Kung Fu Panda money.
I agree about Palestine, where there was a huge, disheartening cry from America in October - December 2023, when the general attitude was that this was all a terrorist attack, and not the beginning of a genocide. I am definitely wary of celebrities who made pro Israel statements then, but I feel many felt expected to, or were just grossly misinformed.
He does sort of just suck though. I feel the internet's perception of his soured so fast in the 2020s, from beloved to loathed, and all he did was keep doing what he always does, just with a tiny amount more selling out, which was enough to snowball the hate.
We’re ahead of the curve on this one. I’ve found him annoying for decades, and now it turns out he’s kinda a shitty person, too. It always annoyed me that he was Reddit’s darling.
Jared Leto, Tom Cruise. Here on Lemmy they might not be as loved as in the general population, but these pieces of shit posing as human beings are definitely loved more than they should.
I think the world turned a bit on Leto after his rat-mailing phase while playing the joker. But I'd say he probably still doesn't engender as much antipathy as he should in the general populace.
Can't argue with Tom Cruise, though. Admittedly he seems like a nice guy, but the whole funding America's biggest and most dangerous cult definitely hampers that.
He wanted the weird image. He implied he was intending to start some sort of harem cult a few years back, which was really a hippie holiday for millionaire women in a very LA way. He absolutely played up his image as a self obsessed creep looking to be worshipped to sell this experience. I honestly feel everything kinda gross about how Jared Leto feels is marketing, although God knows why, as it must hurt his career.
Rat-mailing?
https://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/jared-leto-joker-suicide-squad-method-acting-dead-animals/
He sent his co-stars dead animals and condoms as "gifts"
Jared Leto has always given me bad vibes and with what's come out about him recently it seems like those feelings were justified
This radical dualism is partly an American thing. Here on the other side of the pond, most people believe (IMO) that one can be simultaneously a "piece of shit posing as a human being" and a great actor.
I'm not an American and I'm not watching any movies with them simply because they're garbage.
I mostly agree with this, but apparently Leto is a giant worm was raping or assaulting people or something. While I do think "cancel culture" or whatever is dumb and believe separating art from the artists is an ok thing to do as a consumer, blacklisting someone from the industry for rape/SA is just about the only time I'm in full agreeance with "canceling." Can't be having that type of shit, idec if a Trump supporting actor gets work tbh but assault is a step too far. Liking things he was in prior is one thing, continuing to make workplaces unsafe by employing him is another.
As for consumers, I think they should be free to watch what they want and boycott what they want with impunity and no judgement (besides maybe taste lol), especially if they pirate. Still liking a thing you grew up loving even after something shady comes out does not mean you support the shady thing, especially if you're not literally supporting them monetarily.
(I also fucking hate Thirty Suckents to Mars and he should be punished for making bad music.)
TC afaik isn't dangerous in the same sense, he's just a face of a cult. Miscavige is the really dangerous one there and he should probably be shot, but TC just makes cheesy movies and has sex with fish. As such I don't think there'd be a problem employing him the same as it is for Leto, but also I'm personally not watching his garbage, whether you do or not should be left to you (and I won't judge, other than maybe your taste in movies! Lol)
Is that why Jimmy Savile was given a free pass to diddle kids until after he died?
Julia Roberts.
She was awarded a Best Actress trophy or whatever the fuck it's called... She couldn't even act surprised. Because she obviously knew she was getting it ahead of time.
I dunno why any of them act surprised, they and we are perfectly aware they know beforehand. It's wierd that they do.
Being an alleged Actress receiving Best Actress Award; Weeks to prepare; blows performance.
The entirely farcicle performance?
You really have trouble connecting basic concepts don't you
Do they always thought? I think mostly, they just act grateful, and happy.
Adam Sandler. I dunno that everyone likes him, but he seems very popular and lots of people seem to love his movies, but I can't fucking stand him. I don't enjoy his style of comedy, I find him equal parts vapid and grating in everything I've ever seen him in, I just don't see the appeal.
From the interviews that I've seen and the accounts of people who've encountered him it seems that he's a pretty genuine guy. He knows he's not making high art and isn't pretending otherwise.
Leonardo DiCaprio. I get huge, cringy 'imposter syndrome' vibes from him, like he knows he shouldn't be doing this for a living but soldiers on regardless. I've never bought into a single one of his performances. He always seems like he's 'acting', and never really embodies the characters or reacts 'in the moment'. It's all a poor imitation of what he has seen other actors do.
I hate that he became Scorsese's new De Niro, and so when I hear of a new Scorsese film I get excited and then immediately lose interest knowing that DiCaprio is probably gonna be leading it. Literally every film he has done would have been better with a different actor.
Also Nicolas Cage. I get the memey antifan sort of thing that bolsters his career, but let's be honest, there's no hint of talent in the man. He has ruined what might have been great films. Bringing Out the Dead could have been a legit classic if not for his involvement.
Leonardo DiCaprio. I get huge, cringy ‘imposter syndrome’ vibes from him
Exact opposite feelings here, and I generally have a hard time suspending disbelief. I remember seeing The Basketball Diaries (this was before Titanic) and being blown away by his acting. I'd say this is a rare example of an actor being held back by good looks. A lot of folks have just not wanted to admit that this particular heartthrob has genuine talent. To contrast with, for example, Keanu, or Clooney.
I can't believe I forgot about Nicolas Cage!
Nice call!
The man does not have a single molecule of acting ability anywhere within his soul.
Edit.... Holy shit, I looked up a meme I made on Digg like 20 years ago, it's somewhere out on the internet!!! Yeah I did make it lol
Yeah but nobody likes him
🤷♂️ guess I'm nobody
Oh jeez I'm sorry dude it's ok here's a point up or whatever we call it here. For what it's worth I remember I did enjoy this one movie where he plays these twin writers or something. And that was double Cage right there
Haha, no worries man. It's just a light hearted conversation.
I'll meet you half way and say that even though I enjoy his movies, I don't think I'd like hanging out with him
I don't generally have an issue with Leo but the imposter syndrome comment is on point. He does have a vibe and that description sums it up well.
I’ve never bought into a single one of his performances. He always seems like he’s ‘acting’, and never really embodies the characters or reacts ‘in the moment’. It’s all a poor imitation of what he has seen other actors do.
Yes! exactly. You just summed up my thinking better than I could.
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
Why does this man have an acting career?
He plays one character, but the character is kind of likable and funny. To me he's the definition of a popcorn flick actor.
I definitely don't think he's super talented or anything, but he's funny and charismatic at least.
WWE really pushed many stars to become hollywood actors. bautista is one that actually tries as an actor, dwayne is a movie star attention seeker, also dwayne apparently is the "ellen degeneres" of behind the scenes too.
God he's awful. He has absolutely no acting skills. I skip everything that includes him.
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