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[–] 136 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They'll do the infiltration with the subtlety of a baboon

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    to their credit, infiltratiing a population of 57000 people which are 90% Inuit isn't that easy, anyone new stands out like a sore thumb, and there aren't so many ways to get there either; i'd say the covert approach isn't gonna fly.

    Especially finding allies in the population is pretty senseless. Whoever lives there does so because it's his home and he loves it as it is, i'd wager that there aren't so many people who WANT to live in Greenland when you aren't born there.

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  • [–] 64 points 1 year ago

    trump is essentially Temu Putin

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This is so stupid.

    And you all know why the government wants Greenland, right? What US industry stands to benefit?

    Oil.

    It’s so shallow and obvious, it’s unreal.

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  • [–] 124 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (30 children)

    USA is not an ally to anyone, just look at how they've behaved against Canada, a country that is generally considered USA's closest ally for decades.
    Denmark too has been one of the closest allies to USA for half a century. And USA could easily make defense agreements regarding Greenland with Greenland and Denmark. Yet they choose to behave like an enemy!!!

    USA is behaving like an enemy, and behaving like an enemy, actually makes you one.

    For Christ sake, stop the purchase from Denmark of F35!! What the fuck is our government thinking continuing that moronic program?

    Edit:
    Yes yes yes I get it, I was wrong about Canada supporting USA in the revolution. I'd have preferred not to change the text so many people have already responded to, but I keep getting the same message over and over again.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I wouldn't say we've been their #1 supporter since the war of independence. On average over the last 300ish years, sure. They did invade us in 1812 though.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    They did invade us in 1812 though.

    Fun fact, the US barely teaches anyone about the war of 1812 🙃 It's usually like, a page in a textbook for most people. It's rare for anyone in the US to actually know any details about it, or even what it was about.

    I look forward to the reenactment of the big fire

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    OK I didn't know that.
    But again that was USA being hostile, not Canada.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Oh yeah it was 100% them being hostile. Canada was basically the easy target to take out frustrations they had with the crown. Didn't work though they mostly just cost thousands of lives and got the white house burned down.

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  • It’s been a while since I’ve been in a history class, but I wanna say France was typically considered the US’s closest ally during and after the revolutionary war. Not sure how close that relationship has stayed since, though.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Canada, a country that supported the US fight for independence, and has been their #1 ally ever since.

    Uh... No it didn't, and no it wasn't.

    Maybe starting like 50 years after that...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_relations

    At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Yeah this was hilarious hubris. The Yanks believed that everyone thought as they did.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I always thought Canada was with France, and supported USA in the American revolution.
    Anyways up until recently Canada was generally thought (AFAIK) to be USA's closest ally.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    Canada was still Loyalist British territory. Canada would have been on the opposite side of US and France.

    Canada was also not a sovereign nation at that point, It was still multiple colonial territories. What became of Canada was essentially the territory that remained loyalist during the revolution, or territory the rebels americans failed to take.

    so in other words, Canada didnt exist back then, it was just Loyalist Colonials and the British vs Rebel Colonials and the French. amongst other minor participants german mercenaries, dutch, natives etc

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They basically ran up and said "Hey we are liberating ourselves from the British. How about we help you do the same and with the French too and then we can all be one happy family. The Canadians did a "nah, that's all right, thanks" and walked away.

    Honestly I believe that the US would have been in a better place if we remained like Canada or Australia. We could have avoided hundreds of years of bullshit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I absolutely understand why USA didn't want to be a colony under a king. Where all the profits go to the king, and Americans had zero influence.
    The idea of making a democracy is obviously better than a dictatorship.
    But unfortunately they designed a very flawed democracy, in an attempt to maintain efficiency in governance.
    I understand they didn't know better at the time. But why didn't USA reform their democracy already back in the 70's?
    Of course it's because it worked reasonably well back then, and it was impossible to predict the rapid decline that started with Reagan.
    The flawed democracy only worked as long as both sides respected and protected it, but Republicans began clearly disrespecting it already with Reagan, and it's only gotten worse since.

    So now USA is in a situation where they are very near to require a new revolution to become a functional democracy.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    The funny part is that there was a lot of propaganda. Example: no taxation without representation was actually false. The population in the UK was much higher than in the colonies, and since the colonies had members in parliament, they actually had a higher level of representation than other citizens.

    But even back then, the UK was a democracy. The US took a look back at ancient Greece and combined that with a lot of 18th century philosophy to make the government we see today.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Canadian here. your statement is categorically false.

    America was our enemy up until around the 1900s. the colonies that became Canada were loyalist, IE, opposed to the secessionist revolution. And we were also invaded by America in 1812. There may have also been plans for a second invasion in the 1860/1870 after the Civil War.

    It wasn't until about the first world war that we were even remotely allied. and even then, Canada went to war first in both world wars. only to be joined by America 2-3 years later. We were not formal allies until we founded NATO together.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    We didn't support the USA's fight for independence. They invaded us and we kicked their asses. They tried again in 1812 with similar results.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Yeah, Canada is literally the only country that has ever razed our capitol. They literally burned down the white house. I mean technically they were British at the time but they were the great great grandparents of today's Canadians. As an American it feels really intensely stupid saber rattling at them when they're friends by default.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's not quite true. The people who burned down the White House were British, full stop. It was mostly Canadians that fought off the American invasion and won the war, but the burning was done by fleet of ships carrying British troops that had been stationed in Bermuda at the time.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%E2%80%93United_States_relations

    At the outset of the American Revolutionary War, the American revolutionaries hoped the French Canadians in Quebec and the Colonists in Nova Scotia would join their rebellion. They were pre-approved for joining the United States in the Articles of Confederation. When northeastern Quebec was invaded, thousands joined the American cause

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Whats the alternative? Making in-roads with China? Europe trying to join the BRICS+, the equivalent of Russia trying to join NATO?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    in-roads with China is far and away a more realistic scenario than the other two.

    So long as Russia is involved, Europe and Russia are de-facto at war. and are mutually incompatible with each other.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    China has no allies. They do not cooperate militarily with anybody to the degree the EU or the US does.

    Don’t conflate trade relations with alliances.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Deport all of them immediately

    But not after keeping them in some detention camp for a few months without any reason

    No mercy for these lying fascists

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  • [+] 30 points 1 year ago (4 children)
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    It doesn't really matter what Americans want anymore. Pay for the ticket, take the ride.

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  • [+] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My mom recently toured several scandanavian countries, including Denmark. She prefaced more than one conversation with, "Yes, I'm an American. And I have exactly zero interest in invading Greenland." She said it got some laughs and everyone was friendly. I think most people understand that not all Americans are fucking morons.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Idk what the OG comment was but I'm American and live in Denmark and absolutely no one has even accused me of being trumpy or even been negative that I'm American. More so its "oh so sorry your country is a shit show and wow how terrible for your friends and family still there"

    People are pretty well educated here and understand that half of Americans fucking hate what's going on

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Greenland shouldn't be a Danish colony either.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You could say the same about Australia and Jamaica being part of the British Commonwealth. Historical politics is complex.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I mean, it's not. Greenland has self-rule and parliamentary representation, and a generous bag of cash for running an arctic society delivered every year.

    What they don't get a lot of is respect, which is unfortunate.

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  • [+] -22 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Do they have their own currency?

    No?

    Then they're about as sovereign as a US state.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Denmark has absolutely done many awful things in Greenland, and I am the first to argue for actual equality and reparations for transgressions.

    But they are not, politically, a colony at all. And reducing the question to be about a currency unit (which is pegged to the euro btw), is simplistic and disrespectful to everyone involved.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    It's still stolen land dawg

    And, no, the Euro is a tool of financial imperialism that allows the metropoles to dominate the rest of the Eurozone and prevent the spread of communism. That's it, that's what it's for. There is no sovereignty without currency sovereignity.

    Again, about as sovereign as a US state.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Paywall = clickbait. If they want your money they can say anything just to get you to click.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Those wooden shoe wearing bicyclist will rue the day they didn't put up the for sale sign! /s

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    American here, our current president and administration are unbelievably stupid. Would you like to know more?

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